California Kicks Off 2020 By Offering Free Healthcare To Illegal Immigrants

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[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

Too bad about California... It used to be a great state.

[–]Nemacolin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Compared to the heaven on earth that is Mississippi.

[–]Zahn 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Why are you hating on Mississippi?

[–]Nemacolin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I am trying to be more conventional.

[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Conventional?

[–]Nemacolin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Sure. Mississippi is conventionally said to be one of the worst states in the Union.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Facts!

Its because the name literally sounds like: Ms-Sissy-Pee-Pee.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.mississippi.org/home-page/our-advantages/incentives/tax-incentives/ since you asked? Property tax give aways, means you and I have to pay more. I thought we already decided corporation are people. Now let's tax them the same. Our schools and roads and bridges deserve a tax code that works for all of us.

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

have you been to MISSISSIPPI? Because I have. And I don't think you have.

[–]Nemacolin 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Sure I have been there. I lost my pocketknife. I am not going back to get it.

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think I have your "pocket knife."

[–][deleted]  (7 children)

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    [–]beermeem 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    I'm sure America is just dying from having to deal with the fifth largest economy in the world.

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      [–]beermeem 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Have you ever been to Kentucky?

      [–]beermeem 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      lololol

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Or we could fund them 100% just by taxing Bezos

      [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        That's great we don't want him anyway. Monopolys are bad for business leave and stay away.

        [–]RuckFeddit 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

        Are they ever going to actually do anything about the homeless problem?

        [–]AbeFroman 6 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

        Apparently not. But they did ban straws so there's that.

        [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

        We're saved!

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        You guys love avoiding the the story let me remind you you got nothing know Jack about shit and health care will be provided. Thanks for playing.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Where? Every where? Last time I I looked homelessness isn't related to one place.

        [–]RuckFeddit 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        My God, he's right. Did you guys know there is homelessness outside of California?

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

        Um... I hope everyone can see through this stuff as a charade. Its smoke and mirrors

        Healthcare barely works to actually help people in many cases, and the point behind this is to make everyone clamor around with false pretenses and inflamed biases in their heads.

        Case in point "Reverse breath, ZOMG They're getting "helped" and we aren't!?!?! We r t3h citizens, not them! Time to act stupider! REEEEEEEE!"

        Hope ya don't fall for it, its loaded!

        [–]beermeem 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

        Well, they actually are. And I'm actually not. Meanwhile I am paying for them to be helped but the state won't insure me.

        But, yeah, "healthcare" itself is a complete sham.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

        So the debate is pertaining to value, but health-care doesn't have it. So what exactly are you missing out on then?

        Unless you think there needs to be better executive function in governance for utilizing value to solve fundamental problems pertaining to healthcare and immigration. But, that is a larger debate and you can't exactly go losing your head over small stuff before you can make that proper conjecture. Right?

        Now watch these other guys REEEEEEEE themselves all over the screen for some small stuff!

        Grabs pop-corn

        [–]beermeem 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

        /u/magnora7 what's up with this [deleted] BS?

        [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

        that user is deleting their account every few hours and making a new one, for some reason

        [–]beermeem 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

        ( ( ( s o m e r e a s o n ) ) )

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        ( ( ( s o m e r e a s o n ) ) )

        ( ( ( s o m _ raisondetre!! ) ) )

        But I'm not the only one doing it. Another person that is arguing everyone with the dark REEE is doing it as well lol. There are two it seems, the other guy was tyrd_head?

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        No no, there is another person that deleted their acct. But not every; Wait, what is..

        every view hours

        every view hours? View hours... hmmm. You might be right. I make an account every view hours.

        Well, another user on this thread that was by the name tyrd-head may have deleted his account as well. So it looks a little over-blown.

        Edit: Ohh now you changed it to few hours. I don't make an account every few hours... everytime.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (32 children)

        That's great news!

        [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

        Wow... California is becoming a failed state and you think wasting more money on illegals is a good idea. This country might be doomed.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

        What choice do you have? Maybe we could just let them die in your living room ass hat. While you starve them in your basement. Fucking idiots. Grow a pair and stop being so stupid you can't give me a answer that involves us and them. You coward.

        [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

        Can we help everyone in the world? Should we bankrupt our country trying in vain to save everyone? The world is about to become a much more hostile place and we cannot afford to keep being weak. Let them find another place to live.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        I don't see this as being weak. It has to be that we should not ignore the five hundred pound is the room its cheeper to care for them then to let them die. That will become our country's failure. As for affording it, well that's a function of law. We have no immigration policy at all right now except lock them up. That doesn't cost us anything am I right? And your final comment. they did they came to the greatest country is the world same as your family and mine. We have all the money we need. To pay less than we do know don't be so afraid. And stop scapegoating others just a bit of friendly advise we all where imigrants. America hated at one time or another just ask the Indians.

        [–]Zahn 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        Two things Tyrd: 1. The nation is bankrupt...right now. Borrowing money to borrow more time. 2. Historically immigrants came here legally, repeat that...legally. Ellis Island was a real thing. Not climbing over or crawling under the border.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Nonsense America is mismanaged. We have all the money we need. At Ellis island they came by any means necessary and we had laws to take them in. Today we have no laws we have presidential orders an waste because it easier to scapegoat a race of folks than address the real problem we shut the door on immigration years ago. And you won't admit Bernie is the only one to make an immigration plan in the past twenty years read it if makes sense and never scapegoats a race of humans. It also address climate change and the crap we are headed for. But nice try.

        [–]Zahn 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        No one's scapegoating a race. Why are you so incredibly racist? All you see is race when you should just be seeing people. The US let's on average a million people a year immigrate legally, of all races. How is that shutting the doors on immigration? Explain how 60 trillion in unfunded debt isn't national bankruptcy? The largest sovereign debt in the world and all of history. Mismanaged or not, the nation is bankrupt and fueled by printing money and running on fumes. Statistically the debt can never be paid back. Then again you're a racist, so talking sense is a waste of breath.

        [–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

        send them back?

        don't offer sanctuary

        enforce laws

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        I will remind you you family faced the same thing. How soon you forget. You are a coward to not admit it. I like that about you shows me you can't stand the truth. And have no real complaint just a bunch of bigot fear. Again fix it by bringing forth a law and passing it. Even show me you got an idea. Or go read Bernie's plan and join us we are right and you are just the same old same old we should not listen to. Change can't happen if your so afraid of any change. Bob, lockem up isn't a law it's a hole we won't climb out of. And a cost you can't afford.

        [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        when did my family face such a thing? I think you are getting confused. Seems to be a theme

        Change works many ways. Enforcing borders, kicking out illegals and going full Nationalist is change, too.

        My preferred change, since I learnt just how much everyone outside the west HATES me (apart from a few beautiful exceptions, who are more than welcome to follow legal mechanisms to migrate if they want)

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I agree pass a law or fuck off. Open Borders is a Koch thing. Not a Bernie thing. Read the law he put forward if you got a problem tell you Congress man to work to fix it. Open borders is no solution. Exploiting workers is Trump's solution. I say the law is an ass. And orders from one is a king. I bend no knee to a man. You want a king. I want to address the problem stop being so hurt about it Bob it is a functioning society that makes the !aw and it's broken. Nobody cares why. Tell your Congress man to maybe work more than 80 days a year. Tell you Congress man to stop taking unaccounted for billions from everybody but us. Work to understand we all can here from someplace else. Orderly and fair is better.

        [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (19 children)

        https://i.imgur.com/itMD7IM.png

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

        Why would you believe that stupid shit. With out a functioning immigration system we got scapegoating just chud stirring the fact Trump is a coward and a fool. Pass a law or complain kinda a pussy move. America isn't a anything with out a functioning immigration system. Never has been.

        [–]bobbobbybob 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

        the only reason you don't have a functioning immigration system is that soft-hearted, weak-minded fools defend illegal migration

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Or they are cowards to let it sit for fifty years in disrepair at the expence of all of us. Tell Trump to pass a law. Or please shut the fuck up. Or you could read Bernie's plan and accept Trump is a scapegoating asshat with nothing to add. And those that support him are even worse. Cowards the lot of them.

        [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        nah, you 'shut the fuck up', you rose tinted airhead.

        fancy beliving that Bernie is ever going to be anything other than a tool to keep fools like you tied to a demonic bunch of cunts.

        The only reason the Repubicans are straightening out is because the random, anointed by god, loose canon, trump, upset the plan.

        otherwise the whole shitshow is just a bunch of baby eating moloch worshippers, plus their bait-and-switch pets.

        I support Jesus. And Jesus and his holy father repeatedly and consistently endorse Trump. His name has huge biblical significance, and he just can help being given haloes in photos.

        Praise Jesus

        and come and call me a coward to my face, faggot.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Bob do you mind me calling you that? I know it hurts but stick to the topic it cheaper to treat them then it is to cage them. It's better to treat humans who are sick then let them die in our streets. You want a less chud answer but no. As for your God well I read about him differently. And I find that Jesus defered to state all the way up and including his death on the cross. He throw the money changers out of the temple and fed the hungry and showed love to the sick. He never supported a politician. You must have a different God 🙏😉 you might need to pray on that. Because your second coming is nothing of what God did on Earth. As for the coward remark you just know I will do it here and there. everywhere you say stupid bigoted shit and now this? crazy worship with a false God complex. You are a coward the worst kind to think God would want to just let people die because they are brown like Jesus. Thanks for the attempt to diswaid me but we love God and find you lacking clearly for thinking you know better what God wants better then he did. Nothing but cowardly from the right again. Trump is a flawed person you are a coward who worships a god I know nothing about. Coward to be so hateful. wwjd? You make saidit fun. Bob just don't blame God for Trump's failures it's a broke ass rich guy with the morals of a snake mostly I look at all chud Republican speak as a insult to God. Enjoy the banner we wave in your face. America is not listening anymore we have had en ough of your golden calf. And false idles from chudville

        [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        you are the only one who wants to cage people. I say send them back, or shoot them.

        your problem is you really think all people are made equal. can I call you Turd? Turd. It takes courage to step outside of the artificial safety of a civilised society and see that we are all fighting for our existence, and if you let them, your world, and that of your children, turd, (if you have any) will be destroyed because your heart bleeds just a little too freely for people who hate you

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Read Bernie's plan then say that to him. He is right and will enforce the law better than Trump.

        [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        If you think that Bernie is in anyway anything other than a bait and switch candidate, then you have not been playing attention.

        His job is to keep the students onside, before being beaten by whatever moloch worshiping horror the Democrat party comes up with, so that said students fail to properly think about what they are supporting. go Dems!

        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

        Such bullshit. Large corporations are the ones supporting mass immigration so they can keep wages low. We need to focus on our own citizens first and foremost. This shit has gone on for far too long.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

        Nonsense we have stagnant wages because we past a minimum wage law and forgot to use it. Money from corporations running the show has got us impotent to the tit you suckel from. Tell Trump to bring a plan forward that recognise we him included are all immigrants or you could simply lock them up. That cost us nothing am I right a functioning immigration is what you want. Tell trump this isn't working its his fault and his cross to carry. But it's always been all of us who let them read Bernie's plan he put a nail in this foolish argument and 70% aggree scapegoating is your bag man.

        [–]bobbobbybob 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

        nonsense. The neoliberal model requires low migration to put pressure on employers to raise wages. allowing illegal migration keeps wages low

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Wages are low because of wage laws designed to keep them that way. Stop blaming brown folks you know better. It has never been true and it still isn't today.

        [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        You don't understand economy, and you don't understand the stated principles of neoliberal wage theory.

        No one is blaming brown folks, you racist. Blaming economic migration keeping wages down. Doesn't matter what colour the people are that come in and remove the upwards wage pressures

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        You Bob are and immigrant you whole family are immigrants. You argument is cowardly get it? Fixing immigration takes laws, not presidential orders. What law have you produced, by you i am saying Republicans?. And Democrats suck to. Nobody except one even bothered to try and fix a thing. Lock them up is no law. It is a scapegoat not a solution. Building a wall is a horrible joke. Billions to Trump buddys rife with waste and failure. Wages are different law. And you know it. Law says you can not hire a illegals Trump does it all the time to fuck over American workers. That is fraud. Low pay is because Republicans suck the corporate tube so good and refuse to adjust the minimum wage. Fix overtime laws and continue to fuck over 80 billion American workers by reviewing to address the real problem. Your time is up America knows what to do to fix it Pass a law do the right thing or the next order may be you in a camp. Because you great great Gramma may have lied about her real name at Ellis island. My family is worse they supported the crown in the revalution. Immigration is America it is nothing we fear. we just know it's broke and none of them are gonna fix it with the police state and courts. no Bob that takes a functioning three part government and real leadership. That's why I read Bernie's law and think you know he's right. Orderly immigration better than a wall and police checking my papers on a train. Cowards all of them your support is misplaced and cowardly. Sorry Bob don't be such a pussy the real monkey wrench to the swamp is Bernie join us we really want you to think better of America and do something great for all of us. Lol you are a nuttbag for believing I support neo shit I am a progressive with real world answers. And all the rest are politicians. Me I'm all about getting it done the right way with the American worker. Trump lied to us you should know we are not doing this.$5.00 an hour for 80 billion americans is 400 million dollars being spent on the economy an hour every day every week every year you do the math. in America just spending right here at home. So sorry you can't change my mind on this .

        [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        ah, the starry eyes of youth.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Corporations hiring people who are illegal do that just look at Trump he paid his maids 5 bucks an hour. Thats illegal. Immoral and criminal. And I could give a fuck about what neos want. Admit it lock them up is a failure almost as much as no new law for generation. Your outrage is misplaced I say we got wage laws use them. We had labor laws but forgot to use them as well. We also can not ignore the only one with a plan and a law is Bernie nobody else even tried. Stop blaming assholes that don't have a plan past getting rich and paid off. Right back at ya nonsense. Health care or lock them up isn't really a choice.

        [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        no outrage here - you are projecting.

        'lock them up' is nothing I've talked about. Send them home or put a bullet in their heads is more my style.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Bob you are an asshole

        [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        and the people you seem to want to treat like children are way worse than me.

        [–]bald-janitor 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

        Go fix your hemorrhoids for free then

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        https://berniesanders.com/issues/welcoming-and-safe-america-all/