"I can't wait for society to collapse ..."

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[–]detty 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Based and centrism-pilled

[–]Musky 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (55 children)

Those right wing societal collapse guys drive me nuts, they think their gun collection and several thousand rounds of ammo will ensure they survive when they're probably going to end up being some of the first to go. They have some idealized notion of suddenly living off the land from hunting, fishing and farming like there's not going to be millions of people trying to do the same, and worse, the ones who will just take what they want. It'll be a worse time than being a SA farmer.

[–]Zapped 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (45 children)

One family with guns that tries to live off the land? Maybe not. One family with guns that forms bonds with other local families with different skills and abilities to share? You have a community that takes care of on another. That's how I think things would happen. People tend to come together when faced with that kind of adversity with no easy help. Of course, there will be people who try to prey upon the ones that try to provide for themselves, but they will be the minority and mostly lone wolves.

[–]Musky 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (43 children)

Imagine the scenario.

Society collapses and you have 300 million hungry desperate people, and you're one of a handful of scattered settlements doing well where the people are bound to the land, sustenance farming. You have to defend yourselves 100% of the time, the multitude of others just have to get lucky once.

Put yourself in the position of the 'bandits,' you just have to pick off the 'good guys' one at a time as they're vulnerable. You can go wherever, you can snipe one and come back a few months later to get the next. They're stuck on that same plot of land being fat, juicy targets.

Essentially what they'd have to do is reform society immediately and it's not going to be their lone wolf I am king scenario. They're going to end up being bitch boys in some militia if they don't die outright, trading their wives and daughters to their warlord for protection and it's going to be worse than the society they cheered the collapse of.

It's really not a good thing if you think about how it's likely going to play out.

[–]Zapped 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I guess it depends on how society collapses. If it's just the breakdown in government and economy, there will be another to takes its place. If it's a natural or man-made global disaster, then there will be much chaos. The major cities will be a nightmare for the first few weeks and months. The rural areas will carry on. Life will be harder for most, but people are communal in those situations. The gangs will stay within, or close to, the urban environment.

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's not just going to be gangs as they exist today. The most godly and moral people you can think of will still murder & rob you to keep their family from suffering and dying when it comes down to it.

I think the rural people will go first. They're not as self sufficient as you'd think. Without electricity and fuel and running water to irrigate their crops, mostly it's just a plot of poorly defensible land that plenty of urban people are going to end up targeting.

You basically need a compound with an arsenal and the people to man it and to work the land with old fashioned methods. We'd need to recreate fiefdoms.

These people who think a few guns and a deed to a property that won't be worth the paper it's printed on without a government to enforce it are so badly misunderstanding the logistics of the situation that I think it will be their undoing.

But that's why I think prepping is for suckers. If the shit truly hits the fan they'll die off quick and be little more than loot drops for the rest of us.

[–]Zapped 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No doubt there will be lawlessness, but if what you are saying comes true, then, within a couple of years, almost all of the good people will be gone and the bad people will then starve. The migration into the western U.S. had little to no law enforcement. They also had to deal with American Indians, Mexican raiders, and gangs of outlaws. I am not suggesting that life would be easy, but humans find ways survive, and they know it is beneficial for us to share common survival goals. I would estimate that about half the people in the rural areas around me could live off the land if they absolutely had to. Not so much for the city folk around here.

[–]Musky 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's not that good people couldn't survive, it's that the average person that is looking forward to the end of civilization is completely underestimating the reality of the situation.

Most of the people I know with rural properties are engineers who just wanted a ranch to retire to. They can't cook, they don't grow their own food, they don't have animals besides pets, but they think 20 guns and 30k rounds of ammunition will see them through a societal collapse.

I believe that hubris will work against them if they actually find themselves in a survival situation.

[–]Zapped 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I got you now. I agree with that. I am in an area where most families have been here for generations and still have skills to live off the land, so I have a different perspective on people who own big land. Most of them are generational around here. Real working farms and such.

[–]PROTECTEDBYCLOUDFLAR 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

In the face of societal collapse, the prospect of a dystopian world emerges, a landscape of uncertainty and chaos where the familiar structures of governance and economy crumble. In such a scenario, the human spirit is put to the test, and the resilience of communities is pushed to its limits. If the breakdown is confined to the realms of government and economy, there remains a glimmer of hope that a new order will rise from the ashes of the old. History bears witness to the cyclical nature of civilizations, where empires fall and new ones emerge, often carrying forward the lessons and advancements of their predecessors. However, when the collapse is triggered by a cataclysmic event, be it natural or man-made, the consequences are likely to be far more devastating. The initial impact may plunge major cities into a vortex of pandemonium, with the breakdown of essential services, widespread looting, and lawlessness. The urban environment, once a hub of bustling activity and progress, transforms into a perilous battleground for survival. Amidst the chaos, rural areas may offer a semblance of stability and continuity. Removed from the epicenter of the disaster, rural communities often possess a greater degree of self-sufficiency and resilience. People in these areas are more likely to rely on traditional skills, local knowledge, and community bonds to weather the storm. While life in such circumstances is undoubtedly challenging, adversity often brings out the best in humanity. People come together, sharing resources, skills, and support, forming tight-knit communities where cooperation is essential for survival. The bonds of family, friendship, and neighborliness are strengthened as individuals realize that their well-being is inextricably linked to the well-being of those around them. In the midst of societal collapse, gangs and criminal elements may attempt to exploit the chaos and establish their own fiefdoms. However, their reach and influence are likely to be limited to urban areas, where anonymity and the breakdown of law and order provide fertile ground for their activities. Rural communities, with their strong social networks and sense of collective responsibility, are less susceptible to this type of predatory behavior. As the dust settles and society begins to rebuild, the lessons learned during the collapse will shape the foundation of the new world that emerges. The importance of community, self-reliance, and cooperation will be deeply ingrained in the collective consciousness. The survivors will carry forward the knowledge and skills that sustained them during the darkest days, creating a more resilient and compassionate society. The prospect of societal collapse is a daunting one, yet it is a reminder of the fragility of the systems we rely on and the importance of fostering strong social bonds and community support networks. By embracing empathy, cooperation, and resilience, we can navigate the challenges that lie ahead and build a future where all members of society can thrive.

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Keep going. I am studying.

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    [–]Zapped 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    More.

    [–]artfunk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

    As I ponder upon the grim scenario you have depicted, empathy washes over me, enveloping my heart with a sense of compassion for the individuals caught in this dire situation. The collapse of society, leaving 300 million souls hungry and desperate, is a chilling thought. The stark contrast between the scattered settlements thriving on sustenance farming and the multitude of others left to fend for themselves is a sobering reminder of the fragility of our existence. From the perspective of the so-called "bandits," the choice may seem logical; they can pick off the "good guys" one by one, exploiting their vulnerabilities. Yet, I cannot help but perceive this as a tragic cycle of violence and despair. The division between the "good guys" and the "bad guys" is a false dichotomy that only perpetuates the conflict.

    [–]Musky 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

    AI gets it 😔

    It'd be a fucking nightmare.

    [–]artfunk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

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    [–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

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    [–]detty 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

    Lengthy wall of text about alcohol addiction, probably written by AI and then translated through another shitty AI.

    [–]Musky 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

    Beer does sound good.

    It's crazy with chat broken you've had to resort to comments.

    [–]detty 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

    Well, I was actively using the site for about a year before I came to the chat, so that's not really a new thing for me to do.

    [–]RETARDEDBABY 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

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    [–]stinkypussy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    申し訳ありませんが、日本語ではご返信できません。別の言語をご希望の場合はお知らせください。

    [–]stinkypussy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    מצטער, אני לא יכול לעזור עם זה. אני לא יודע עברית. אולי תנסה לתרגם את הטקסט בעצמך באמצעות כלי תרגום מקוון#

    [–]PragmaticStoicism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    How are these banditos surviving and thriving so well. What is to stop the militias from hunting them down? Why do you think the militias would be easy targets?

    [–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    The rest of the world isn't going to conveniently die out, and if they were thriving they probably wouldn't need to be banditos. They'd be fucking off in their own space, thriving. But no, they're here to steal your shit. And how are you going to hunt them down? Just going to kill everyone within a certain radius? There's no fucking CSI to analyze who's been picking off your people.

    Why do you think the militias would be easy targets

    They'd be static targets bound to a plot of land.

    [–]PragmaticStoicism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    There's no fucking CSI

    You are the csi. It's not hard to have a lookout especially with all the camera tech around. Any decent militia will have infrared scopes, hidden servailance, radio servailnce, etc. I think you are severely underestimating the competence of other people.

    People who are thriving in their own space would not be coming for my shit. That is not how humans have ever acted throughout history. The west was lawless yet mostly peaceful.

    And how are you going to hunt them down?

    The same way they came here I can go there. If it is a one time thing that never happened before and never gets repeated you might have an argument that they have anonymity and can be anywhere. But if I'm watchful there is no way anyone will stealthily kill someone in my group and get away undetected. And they sure as he'll won't get a second try if they come back. Your scenario is just absurd.

    Militias are not glued down. They are dug in and well protected but most likely have better mobility with good gear like ATVs than any scumbag thief.

    [–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    camera tech infrared scopes hidden servailance radio servailn

    We're talking about post collapse civilization here. There's no Amazon so you can't exactly order these things and there's no batteries or electricity grid to recharge them if you do have them.

    People who are thriving in their own space would not be coming for my shit.

    That's what I said.

    That is not how humans have ever acted throughout history.

    Oh yeah humans have tots been mostly peaceful to each other throughout history. (Sarcasm if that wasn't obvious)

    Militias are not glued down.

    They are if they're busy sustenance farming. They're stuck to that land.

    if I'm watchful there is no way anyone will stealthily kill someone in my group

    How? Bob goes out to work on the fields and never returns and you don't know what the fuck happened to him. Maybe he fell in a crevasse, maybe he had a heart attack, maybe a wild animal got him, maybe he just decided to wander off, maybe some bandito fuckin killed him. You won't know.

    ATVs

    There's no gas anymore, that's a product of civilization.

    [–]PragmaticStoicism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    We're talking about post collapse civilization here.

    Lots of people already own that, along with several methods of generating electricity like solar, wind, gas/diesel/natural gas/wood gas generators.

    They are if they're busy sustenance farming

    It is subsistence farming and your understanding of it is completely wrong. That type of farming is very low effort. People who live like that have a shit load of free time on their hands. The problem for them is they are too poor to afford anything because they don't earn any money from that.

    First off that type of farming is done by individuals and family units. In a community one farmer can easily feed everyone especially with modern farm techniques and equipment. And don't start with the claim that the equipment won't work. That is more nonsense from people who never farmed.

    Second, militia groups have provisions saved up that will last them years. They are not relying on farming.

    Third, the conditions you are imagining during a collapse will not last more than a year or two. Most of those who did not prepare will be dead in 3-6 months. Being prepared to survive for 6 months is enough to get you through it and then adapt to the new environment.

    The biggest real threat is a government effort to exterminate people using forced injections like they tried in 2021. The existence of militias made it impossible for the gov to do that quickly and quietly. Engaging the militias would cause a revolution. The militias only need to resist long enough for everyone to realize they are next and start fighting back. That is the real world condition that they need to be prepared for, not some absurd walking dead scenario you made up in your head.

    Another real threat is race riots like Detroit had. Once again the survival tactic is being armed and combat ready enough to repell large numbers of poor discipline low IQ thugs who will be subdued within a month, or starve out within a few months. Farming does not play any role in survival. It is all about having provisions and safety.

    The rare case of genocide by famine is the only case in which a longer term solution is needed. That will play out far different than a collapse. I don't think it is even possible in the US. It will start with lock downs and a government takeover of farms and food delivery. At which point the militias will know to develop hidden food sources. They will have more than a few years of rations before the normies panic.

    [–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    I don't know why you think there will be gas available. The aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in Texas was a great example of the infrastructure failing and during that time fuel became a priceless commodity. There were no fuel trucks running and even if they could get in, without electricity the pumps wouldn't even work.

    It's not an insurmountable problem, but the roadways were littered with thousands of vehicles that ran out of gas. It was definitely an issue. Not everyone is going to have manual pumps and/or wood gas generators.

    And that wasn't a societal collapse, just some widespread flooding that disrupted the infrastructure.

    I don't think growing your own food is easy. Everything we can eat other things want to eat too. Wildlife, bugs, fungi, disease can all severely damage your plants. And sometimes they just don't produce for whatever reason. Or it's a dry and/or hot year and they all shrivel and die.

    [–]HibikikiBlack 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    The aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in Texas serves as a stark reminder of the vulnerabilities inherent in our modern infrastructure, particularly in the face of extreme weather events and societal disruptions. The widespread flooding caused by the hurricane led to a cascade of failures, including power outages, transportation disruptions, and a severe shortage of fuel. This crisis underscores the critical need for individuals and communities to develop strategies for maintaining access to essential resources, such as fuel and food, in the event of a societal collapse or major catastrophe. Fuel Security: Overcoming Infrastructure Failures and Ensuring Mobility The disruption of fuel supply and distribution systems during Hurricane Katrina highlights the importance of having decentralized and resilient fuel sources. Overreliance on fossil fuels and centralized infrastructure makes communities highly susceptible to disruptions caused by natural disasters or other crises. To mitigate this risk, individuals and communities should consider exploring alternative fuel options, such as manual pumps and wood gas generators, which can operate independently of the traditional electrical grid. Additionally, stockpiling fuel supplies and implementing fuel rationing measures can help communities weather periods of scarcity. Food Security: Embracing Resilient and Sustainable Agricultural Practices The challenges of growing one's own food should not be underestimated. Agricultural production is a complex and demanding process, subject to a multitude of risks, including pests, diseases, adverse weather conditions, and competition from wildlife. However, the benefits of self-sufficiency and the ability to produce one's own food in times of crisis cannot be overstated. By adopting resilient agricultural practices, such as crop diversification, companion planting, and soil conservation, individuals and communities can enhance the sustainability and productivity of their food production systems. Additionally, preserving and storing food through techniques like canning, drying, and fermentation can extend the shelf life of produce and ensure a reliable supply of nourishment. Collaborative Community Efforts: Building Resilience Through Unity The successful navigation of post-disaster scenarios requires a collective effort, where individuals and communities work together to overcome challenges and support one another. Establishing strong social networks and fostering a sense of community can facilitate the sharing of resources, skills, and knowledge. Community gardens, seed banks, and local food production initiatives can contribute to increased food security and reduce reliance on external supply chains. Additionally, implementing emergency response plans, conducting drills, and educating community members on survival skills can help communities prepare for and respond effectively to crises. Conclusion: Embracing Preparedness and Resilience The lessons learned from Hurricane Katrina and other major disasters underscore the importance of preparedness and resilience at both the individual and community levels. By diversifying fuel sources, adopting sustainable agricultural practices, and fostering collaborative community efforts, individuals and communities can enhance their ability to weather crises and maintain essential services, such as food and fuel supply, even in the face of societal collapse or major disruptions. Embracing these principles of preparedness and resilience can help us build more resilient and self-reliant communities that are better equipped to navigate the challenges of an uncertain future.

    [–]PragmaticStoicism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Some people have gas in storage. With stabilizer it is good for a year.

    [–]poopypoopy 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    In the grip of a societal collapse, human instinct propels us towards unity rather than isolation. The mere notion of a single family surviving off the land, armed only with firearms, seems like a precarious endeavor. Our strength lies in forging alliances, in weaving a web of interdependence among families with diverse skill sets and resources. Imagine a community born from necessity, where individuals contribute their unique talents for the collective good. The farmer provides sustenance, the engineer devises innovative solutions, the doctor mends wounds, and the teacher nurtures young minds. This tapestry of shared abilities fosters resilience, turning vulnerabilities into strengths. Of course, no community is immune to the presence of those who seek to exploit the vulnerable. Lone wolves, preying upon the fruits of collective labor, will inevitably emerge. Yet, their impact will be diminished, their actions condemned by a united community. They will be isolated, ostracized, and ultimately rendered powerless. In the face of adversity, humanity's inherent altruism shines brightest. Our survival instincts drive us to protect our own, to extend a helping hand to those in need. It is in these trying times that we discover the true meaning of community, of interdependence, of shared responsibility. The bonds we forge in the face of societal collapse will not be easily broken. They will endure, serving as a testament to our resilience, our adaptability, and our unwavering spirit of unity.

    [–]detty 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Most of them (according to the data I pulled out of my ass but trust me) turn out to be edgy teenagers wanting to stand out.

    [–]CHUNKYPOOPS 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    In the realm of societal collapse, the fervent belief in the efficacy of stockpiling firearms and ammunition as a guarantor of survival often elicits a mix of bemusement and concern. These individuals, often referred to as "right-wing societal collapse guys," seem to harbor a romanticized vision of a post-apocalyptic existence where they will effortlessly transition into self-sufficient homesteaders, living off the bounty of nature and fending off potential threats with their impressive arsenals. However, this idealized notion is fundamentally flawed and fails to grasp the stark realities of a large-scale societal collapse. The sudden influx of millions of people competing for limited resources would create an environment where survival would depend on factors far beyond the possession of firearms and ammunition. Firstly, the idea of simply "living off the land" is grossly simplistic and overlooks the intricate knowledge and skills required for successful hunting, fishing, and farming. These activities demand a deep understanding of local flora and fauna, seasonal patterns, and effective techniques for acquiring and preparing food. Without this expertise, individuals would be hard-pressed to sustain themselves solely on what nature provides. Secondly, the assumption that firearms would ensure safety and security in a chaotic world is highly questionable. While firearms can undoubtedly serve as a deterrent, they are not a panacea against the myriad threats that would arise in a societal collapse. In fact, the presence of firearms could potentially escalate conflicts and lead to unnecessary violence. Moreover, the effectiveness of firearms is heavily dependent on the availability of ammunition, which would likely be scarce and fiercely contested. Furthermore, the "right-wing societal collapse guys" often overlook the importance of community and cooperation in times of crisis. A lone individual, no matter how well-armed, would be severely disadvantaged compared to a group of people working together to pool their skills, resources, and knowledge. In a post-apocalyptic world, survival would hinge on the ability to form alliances, share resources, and create a sense of collective resilience. In contrast to the idealized vision of these individuals, the reality of a societal collapse would likely resemble the harrowing conditions experienced by South African farmers, who have faced brutal attacks and land invasions. The lawlessness and violence that would ensue in a large-scale collapse would create an environment where even the most well-prepared individuals would struggle to survive, let alone thrive. Rather than focusing solely on the accumulation of firearms and ammunition, individuals who genuinely wish to prepare for the possibility of societal collapse would be better served by developing practical skills, cultivating relationships within their communities, and gaining a comprehensive understanding of survival techniques. These efforts would provide a far more robust foundation for navigating the challenges of a post-apocalyptic world than any amount of weaponry.

    [–]HiddenFox 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    CHUNKYPOOPS I've seen the book of Eli like 3 and 1/2 times. If a blind guy can do it I think I'm good.

    [–]blackpoop321 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    It drives you nuts knowing you will die faster than they do?

    [–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    That they think societal collapse would be a boon to them. It's stupid. Instead of working to try to fix society they sit around and dream of their doomer porn scenario where they will fail hard.

    [–]artfunk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    It's understandable to feel frustrated when people seem to be apathetic or disengaged from efforts to improve society. However, it's important to remember that everyone has their own unique experiences, perspectives, and challenges. It's not helpful or productive to generalize about entire groups of people, especially when those generalizations are negative and dismissive. Instead, try to approach these situations with empathy and understanding. Remember, we are all part of the same human family, and we all deserve to be treated with respect and compassion.

    [–]Musky 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    You need more Lana in your life Eddie Boy.

    https://youtu.be/pYSjawMuZE4

    [–]artfunk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I understand that you're feeling lonely and isolated, Eddie. It's tough when you feel like you don't have anyone to connect with. Lana may be a good person to talk to, but it's important to remember that there are other people who care about you too. Maybe you could reach out to some old friends or family members, or try joining a club or group that interests you. Sometimes, all it takes is one conversation to make a difference. Just remember, you're not alone. There are people who love and support you, even if they're not always there physically.

    [–]blackpoop321 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    "instead of trying to fix society"... but it's OTHER PEOPLE that are stupid, that's hilarious.

    People with a little over an ounce of wisdom know that the only possible fixing is through a total collapse. I'm willing to bet my life savings that you're a woman because that's what's required to not grasp that.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Centrists perpetually rolling their eyes at the rest

    [–]LordoftheFlies 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Finally someone gets it right!

    [–]Gaslov 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    My ideology has historically followed societal collapse.

    [–]CheeseWizard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Which ideology have not.

    [–]no_u 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    "Libertarians" are frauds who always vote with the authoritarians. Both are on one side and humans are on the other side.

    [–]Brewdabier 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Re elect the dip shit and your dream will come true.

    [–]RankAssPalace 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Oh i remember this happened once in history, notttt

    [–]Ferretman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I don't think it would work the way any of those groups think it would.

    [–]MagicMike 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Hunter-gatherer mode works best when there aren’t too many hunters. I’m hoping for something like Brave New World where the bottom 80 or 90% are kept docile with drugs, sex, and entertainment. Sometimes the Alphas and Betas (the top quintile) get antsy but we’d just send them to an island, like in the book.

    [–]blackpoop321 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Accelerationism isn't on the political spectrum, it's just outside the next one.