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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

the people loving trump distrust the propaganda the most. Likely due to having the higher IQs. I still think if they were more truthful more people would go along with their vaccine plans. More get the heart problems from the vaccine than the .01% that die from covid. So maybe you're right tho that covid has more of a threat of causing long term fatigue and that is serious, they ought to focus on that then. Lying from the get go was a bad move if this pandemic is a real threat.

[–]mahavishnunj 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

the people loving trump distrust the propaganda the most. Likely due to having the higher IQs.

ok, i was wrong. THIS is irony at its most exquisite.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

You think they're dumb cuz of propaganda

[–]mahavishnunj 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You think they're dumb cuz of propaganda

i do not, and have not dealt with that for decades. i KNOW trump supporters are dumb as fuck, because supporting ANY of these people(him being the most embarrassing) is a tell tale sign. its like having a face or neck tattoo.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

they're the ones against forced vaccination tho so by definition are smarter than dems

[–]mahavishnunj 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

still thinking its a 'republican vs democrat' thing means youre not even close to figuring this shit out yet.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Lying from the get go was a bad move if this pandemic is a real threat.

Agreed

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

so maybe it wasn't a real threat and they lied because they knew that

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Though the US Government had intelligence on the Wuhan virus in late October 2019, from reliable sources who were in Wuhan to report this kind of information, there was an insider trading effort not to respond to it until D.C. investors could shift their investments. This is one of the reasons the GOP and trump lied in January - March 2020 about COVID19, whereas other countries were already responding to it. Trump lied 16,241 times to the public while in office, specifically to help his cronies, family, Russian oligarchs (who paid his $ 400 m debt), the GOP and other associates. His is the most corrupt presidency and government in the past century. He and his supporters repeatedly said COVID19 is a hoax. This allowed the virus to spread and mutate, making the US the second worst example for COVID19 responses in the world (India's numbers are supposedly only a fifth of their actual cases and deaths).

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

what should they have done, shut everything down? for fed govt to do that would be unconstitutional plus trump knew it'd kill his chances at reelection. But trump would want to stop covid if he could, it is reason he lost to Biden a terrible candidate. He lost due to not stopping states from illegally locking down, he stood next to fauci daily and supported him. So the real illegal thing Trump did was not stopping the illegal lockdowns. Which were done and did not stop covid anyway.

Now Biden is president. Why doesn't he order lockdowns, same reason Trump did not. Would be illegal and unpopular, and dems are in charge now so don't want to be unpopular.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

what should they have done, shut everything down?

What other countries were doing: masks, social distancing, tests, quarantine if necessary, track/trace if possible, require this especially at airports, vaccinate when possible months later, &c. It's always been well known that these simple steps could have stopped or reduced the lockdowns. But Big Corp and investors wanted those lockdowns.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

was done, didn't work, didn't work in other countries either

trump did focus on making a vaccine, which hurt him electorally.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

There were reports for months that those flying to the US didn't have to wear masks, were not tested, and thus were not quarantined. This lasted well into 2020 before there were the appropriate changes, whereas other countries developed those standards for airports by February. Moreover, science, COVID, masks and the the rest of it was politicized as a hoax, especially at crowded Trump rallies, and by those who wanted to make videos of themselves fighting with grocery store staff about masks.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

do you remember what dems were saying in that early 2020 period

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Yes