John Jacob Astor: Freemason, Intel Operative and Made Man

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[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ping /u/Tom_Bombadil /u/useless_aether because you guys commented on this I thought you might dig this new paragraph above. The other reason I wrote it will soon be unveiled.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks for the link to the playlists. This one was particularly interesting.

The Titanic Conspiracy - The Great Deception {John Hamer}

It's interesting how he makes the case that no passengers reported seeing an iceberg hit the ship, and only two crew members reported seeing it.
However, some witnesses did report seeing a ship leaving the scene. Some witnesses claimed that an icebreaker ship intentionally crashed into the ship; creating a 6 inch wide gash for over 300 feet.

You should post the link to this presentation. Maybe watch the last 20 mins for the Q&A refresher. Interesting stuff.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd never considered this much.

This brings to mind a side story that helps confirm the "official" narrative... After the Titanic sank they found the villainous iceberg because they found some tea cups on it as proof. I always thought that was a strange thing to find. Perhaps this is true or a concocted story. The Titanic china was the same as all other White Star Line china.

There's also the story of snowball fights on deck, allegedly scraped off the iceberg. In freezing temperatures snow could be made by frost and/or the bow's ocean spray collecting on deck. But who can know what's true anymore.

I think you just posted it. That's a great lecture. It's in that playlist. There's a lot in that playlist. But the idea is to keep the "lessons" as short as possible.