Something I don't get regarding Nationalists and the vaccine

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (36 children)

I'm sorry but I find it impossible to take your wall of text seriously, when visual evidence shows that people are still dying of the disease.

By calling it fake, you're trying to say that no one, NO ONE, in history has ever died to the virus, and it's all just one giant feature film put together by the lowest budget actors who all act in unison of dropping dead when it's called for.

Not even Shakespeare could write a play that realistic or convincing.

It's easier to sit behind a computer and rant about how fake the world is instead of actually trying to participate in it. Once again, take my challenge and apply for a job in a Hospital and explain how it's all fake. You being the fearless person should have no problem touching as many patients as possible, and returning to work everyday when all your co-workers are sick and expect you to cover for their workloads.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

when visual evidence shows that people are still dying of the disease.

Most people dying of 'covid' had preexisting conditions or they were killed by healthcare providers who used an 'approved' cocktail of drugs and ventilators they knew would kill people. There's also 'visual' evidence people are dying from the vaccine but that evidence doesn't seem to have the same weight for some strange reason.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

covid is real and does kill people, also the vaccine doesn't work

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

I admire the Asian culture and one of the things they value greatly is strict border control and great healthcare.

Distrusting your own medical professionals is only proof of a low IQ and low trust society since it breaks cohesion.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Medical professionals aren't pushing the gene therapy. Jew cabal technocrats and Jew media are. "low iq" people don't really question much in my experience. They might complain or challenge but they don't 'question'.

It's also a weird claim to say that distruct of medical professionals is the sign of a 'low trust society'. We literally have millions of whites that got the vax without even the most cursory examination of the dangers or motives. That's SUPER high trust. Whites produce very high trust societies in fact it might just be their undoing.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Now look at the people who distrust the vaccine? It's Blacks and Browns who disproportionately make up bigger numbers, yet I'm suppose to believe they're the ones who know best? The same people who could never have even identified the virus without white technology?

This is a horrible conspiracy to defend. Not just because of the contradictions, but also because of the millions of real people who have to put up with it. Like I said to the other guy, just spend at least 24 hours in a Hospital and come back and report how everything is made up.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

You've ignored my points. You've done this in the past. You're just here to shill vaccines. It's not a debate if you just ignore the person you're talking to and ignore their claims. In many threads you claims have been totally destroyed and you never change your opinion on any of them. It's quite strange. On the other hand you've done a weird change with many of your other positions. I'm very skeptical of you and your account radicalcentrist.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

You haven't debunked my claim from months ago, which was to go inside a Hospital or Clinic, and video tape reactions to the vaccines.

I don't know why you want to play stupid on this subject? Even the idea of "vaccine shill" is retarded. They're literally being given away for free. Nobody is actually paying to inject themselves with this stuff.

There really isn't much else I can say but let history judge you. If 10 years from now, the Covid denial turns out to be deader than even Flat Earth, then nobody is ever going to take you seriously in life. Just a warning.

And it's such a shame because I don't understand why anyone wants to waste time on such a fringe subject. China & Russia could launch nuclear missiles tomorrow, and you'll still harp on about vaccines being the end of the world? Come on.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

You haven't debunked my claim from months ago, which was to go inside a Hospital or Clinic, and video tape reactions to the vaccines.

That's not a claim. That's a request to go collect anecdotal evidence. The reason I know you're a shill is you aren't even arguing with me. I never claimed the vaccine would make people instantly die when they take it. I've said this multiple times yet you continue to strawman. You're definitely here in bad faith.

If your claim is that people are having bad reactions to covid 19 then I would refer you to multiple previous arguments where I brought out researchers and doctors explaining that spike proteins from injections are causing many of the symptoms we are seeing. The initial symptoms before the vaccines were just the regular flu season which grows worse and worse every year as the populace gets fat, over medicated, and older. The technocrats hijacked the regular flu season. You didn't respond to any of those lectures or papers though. I'm pretty sure you didn't even read them because you didn't bother to address any of the data or claims brought up. That's typical of people that don't want to debate. Most of the deaths in hospitals were caused by comorbidity, unnecessary drugs and misuse of ventilators. Nearly every 'covid' patient put on a ventilator died. It's the hospital protocols that are killing patients. (I'm going to just share that video for all the other people who might be reading this thread because I know you won't watch it and engage)

I don't know why you want to play stupid on this subject?

Ad hominem. That's low on the pyramid of debate. Another example of your disingenuous nature.

There really isn't much else I can say but let history judge you

Not an argument.

If 10 years from now, the Covid denial turns out to be deader than even Flat Earth

Lol. Typical shill tactic. Attempt to connect people with genuine data and questions about a massive government run vaccine program that effects billions of peoples health, wealth and livelihoods and you're connected to 'flat earth' conspiracy theorists. Hilarious. Also how does flat earth theorizing kill more people then the VAERS database has already shown? The only person that died from flat earth was a crazy dude that built his own rocket ship.

And it's such a shame because I don't understand why anyone wants to waste time on such a fringe subject.

How is a massive mandatory experimental gene therapy program a 'fringe subject'. There's real talk about the un vaccinated not being able to work, fly, buy groceries or attend public events. That's the creation of second class citizens. The right to work and travel are fundamental rights and taking them is tyranny. Australia is setting up 'unvaccinated' camps. How can anybody in good faith say that's not a serious and political expedient topic to debate and discuss?

China & Russia could launch nuclear missiles tomorrow

No they won't. Even a small amount of consecutive nuclear missile strikes cause atmospheric problems and debris that could fuck with the worlds crop production. There's of course the retaliation issue. There's no danger of nuclear war and even if there was it wouldn't make bad goy camps and gene therapy injuries any less important.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Actually, you know what? I'm not going to waste my time on this subject anymore.

Watching someone talk about vaccines without ever stepping foot inside a hospital, is like taking sex advice from a virgin. You don't even work in the medical industry, so you literally have no experience of what is going on.

[–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Actually, you know what? I'm not going to waste my time on this subject anymore.

You won't argue with u/send_nasty_stuff because he kicked your ass in a one sided argument. Not that its the first time thats happened. Hes beaten you down before, and I've done it more times than I can count. This is what happens when you try to vaccine shill with Reddit-style tactics on this forum.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Watching someone talk about vaccines

Do you have a camera in my house?

You don't even work in the medical industry

Do you know where I work?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Brain cells. They don't sell them at walmart.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I'm sorry but I find it impossible to take your wall of text seriously, when visual evidence shows that people are still dying of the disease.

I'm can understand why you feel this way.

The statistics indicate that Covid primarily kills the elderly, right?

I would propose an simple, but anecdotal experiment.

The indirect evidence should indicate which theory is more likely correct.

Go to your local news papers and look up the obituaries.

In the past, obituaries were almost exclusively filled with the elderly; assuming the death wasn't caused by a traumatic injury (car crash, etc.).

Count the number of deaths that are 69 y/o and below.

I'm predicting that between 1/4 and 1/3 will be deceased younger people.
By younger, I mean between the ages of 20 and 50.
Way below the avg expected life expectancy.

The cause of deaths will probably be unusually vague.

These are the people who died from the VACCINE!

The "delta variant" is the vaccine.

I'm interested in whatever results you find.
If the obituary is on a web page, then please do others a favor and reply with a link to the local page.

I'm interested in your feed back.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

So what are you saying? We should just let all old people die?

This is actually one of the most psychopathic arguments I find being made by anti-vax. You want to pick and choose who dies, even though anyone with a family wouldn't sacrifice a member for selfish reasons.

Or here's a better question for you: why should we let anyone die of the virus? Are you an extreme Capitalist who thinks money is worth more than lives? Keep in mind, that would put you on the same team that wants to replace the white race with third world immigrants to keep the GDP rising.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

So what are you saying?

Covid-19 IS the flu. Nothing more.
Media manufactured theater.

The covid death count ended in China with fewer than 5000 total deaths attributed to Covid.
Impossible in a country of 1.3 billion, unless it's a hoax.
It is a hoax. The ultimate PsyOp.

The vaccine IS the delta variant.
They are injecting people with gene therapy, and doing who knows what, or why.

It's the greatest criminal experiment in human history.

why should we let anyone die of the virus?

This question presupposes a new and deadly communicable illness.
There isn't.

We should just let all old people die?

We should always do whatever we can (within reason).

Provide the best flu treatment (etc.) for as many people as possible.

There's no avoiding the fact that people get old, sick, and die. That's life.
We can't completely prevent the eventual aging of our bodies.

However, we can encourage activities and dietary habits that will improve health.

What you should be asking yourself is, "WHY AREN'T ANY ALLEGED "MEDICAL AUTHORITY FIGURES" ENCOURAGING HEALTHY LIVING AND LIFESTYLES???

This is completely absent.

The CDC is officially called The Centers for Disease Control AND PREVENTION!!!

No discussion of vitamins, nutritious foods, exercise, hygiene (except for poisonous hand "sanitizers") or anything proactive/beneficial.

Are you an extreme Capitalist who thinks money is worth more than lives? Keep in mind, that would put you on the same team that wants to replace the white race with third world immigrants to keep the GDP rising.

This "pandemic" is a media PsyOp.

An illusionary spell that has been cast on the public mind.

The only tangible thing about this hoax in everyday life is the mask, and the paranoid fear-stricken public.

They put masks on everyone, because this is a show. The world stage has changed. We have moved into a new age, but the

When you recognize this, then everything makes sense.

But they're hiding something.

The banksters have robbed the public of it's wealth.

The economic system that created is collapsing, and they are using the Covid spell to misdirect the greatest fraud in history with a fake pandemic.

The founder of the world economic forum wok wrote a book called "Covid-19: The Great (economic) Reset".

It was published and released in print during June of 2020.
The word Covid was supposedly coined during Feb or March 2020.

Do you think he wrote, edited, published and printed that book in 4 months, or less???

This collapse and PsyOp was all planned out well before 2020.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

This question presupposes a new and deadly communicable illness. There isn't.

Ok man, you anti-vaxxers are just dumbasses.

Like I mentioned earlier, go work in a Hospital first before writing your next wall of text.

I don't know what line of work you are in (or assuming you work at all), but you clearly don't spend every day interacting with other people or society. That's your folly.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Ok man, you anti-vaxxers are just dumbasses.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer.

This is a mRNA gene therapy.
It's not a Vax.

Moderna wasn't started as a Vax company, and it still isn't. They do gene therapy.

RNA is imbedded in the name ModeRNA.

The new, and alleged "approved" Pfizer gene therapy is called ComiRNAty...

RNA in the word ComiRNAty!!!

You can't make this stuff up!?

Vaccines inject some material to essentially give your immune system some exposure to a pathogen, so it can strength it's immune system against infection.

That's the basic idea.

This crazy gene therapy permanently modifies the RNA in summer of your cells, so that they produce the disease inducing pathogen material.
That's the stated plan, anyway.

We're not supposed to investigate the contents of the injection, or even ask questions, so...

No animal trials.
No medium-term safety studies.
No long-term safety studies.

Every injected individual is their own personal-term study.
For as long as they survive. Literally.

Like I mentioned earlier, go work in a Hospital first before writing your next wall of text.

The craven cowards in the hospital know that they'll lose their job if they speak out.
They know.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The craven cowards in the hospital know that they'll lose their job if they speak out. They know.

You don't have to say anything. Since you have no fear of diseases, they can send you to treat the patients, as the Doctors watch from a safe distance.

Repeat this for an entire year and then tell me if the virus is fake.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I have provided you with the obvious and inconceivable inconsistencies of both the government and pharma cartel's false narratives.

You appear to be frightened beyond logical comprehension.

Unfortunately, roughly half of my country's population has been similarly brainwashed.

Repeat this for an entire year and then tell me if the virus is fake.

Covid season is coming up. I think it starts at the end of Sept.

It's no longer "flu season", because the fake CDC figures suggests Covid cured influenza.

Anyway, I'd strongly advise against anytime getting any mRNA gene therapy injections.

Major hospital's may quickly exceed the healing capacity of the available staff, because many are quitting to avoid the mRNA gene therapy stab(s).

This additional manufactured staffing crisis will be insanely exacerbated by a combination of:

  • Annual influenza patients.
  • Hundreds of thousands (probably millions) of REKD and crippled experimental mRNA therapy victims.

You don't have to say anything.

In an honest society, what I've stated would be mainstream thoughts.

Regrettably, free speech is no longer a cherished western value.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

In an honest society, what I've stated would be mainstream thoughts. Regrettably, free speech is no longer a cherished western value.

Then you're not doing your part by refusing to go to Hospitals and doing the jobs that most Nurses and other staff are scared to do or face extreme burn out.

You claim to be completely fearless so you should have nothing to worry about with my challenge. Go to work, handle all the sick patients, accept more workloads from Nurses who just quit because the stress of dealing with patients has got to them.

If what you're saying is true, you would immediately make headline news as the first supersoldier who did the job that thousands of other people are having a tough time filling or staying put.

Yet instead, you would rather sit behind a keyboard and talk about how you figured the entire world out. Have you ever heard of the saying "actions speak louder than words"? Nobody is impressed by you just talking. You need to prove the action part first, before the world can take you seriously.

Edit: And when you do show up to work, do not wear any protective equipment. No masks, no goggles, no gloves.

Since you know the virus is fake, don't be afraid to get any of those foreign pathogens on your face.

So what are you waiting for? Go show the world you mean business instead of typing more walls of text.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Then you're not doing your part by refusing to go to Hospitals and doing the jobs that most Nurses and other staff are scared to do or face extreme burn out.

Booooorrrriiiinnnggg... The same boring forum sliding, and s foolish nonsense?

Did you run out of state approved note cards?

I'm glad we had this back and forth though.

Plenty of people read the factual info I presented, and likely learned something.

Go live your life.
Good luck with your future mRNA.

[–]thefirststoneThat's my purse! I don't know you! 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The covid death count ended in China with fewer than 5000 total deaths attributed to Covid. Impossible in a country of 1.3 billion, unless it's a hoax.

Their numbers are political, regardless. It tells us nothing about the disease, unfortunately.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Their numbers are political, regardless. It tells us nothing about the disease

Actually, it confirms that this is all a hoax/PsyOp.

It's business as usual in China.

Infact, CDC reported figures are demonstrably more meaningless.

Study finds CDC inflated COVID numbers by 1,600%

An utter fraud.