Opinion on COVID vaccination

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[–]AngusMacCuckywuck[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (59 children)

Because non-whites are poorer, and refusing the jewjab is heavily correlated with class. But poor whites are even more hesitant than poor non-whites.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (57 children)

So you want to be poor [and by correlation] low IQ? I honestly think that makes the anti-vax movement look even worse, if the main people opposing it are also the least intelligent...

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (24 children)

I've found that intelligent people are more not less likely to fall for group think and propaganda. I think it has something to do with how specialized the current academic and professional disciplines are. Most intelligent people just simply trust other intelligent people instead of spending the time to investigate claims. This is a very smart thing to do in a high trust society with trustworthy civic institutions. This is a deadly thing to do in a society taken over by a high IQ hostile cabal that wants world power and doesn't care how many people that have to kill to achieve it.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

I made a thread about intelligence recently, and it was concluded that anyone who consistently performs better on a single metric, is indeed more smart. The kid who fails Math Class is never going to be more knowledgeable on the same subject than the Teacher or another Student who got A+ in class.

Medicine is not politics. I don't care if a shitlib says it. We have real data and information that says your chances of survival are better in the hands of a vaccine as opposed to doing nothing at all or even exposing yourself to the virus. That has nothing to do with Left or Right-wing politics. It's based on numbers and there is no proof that Billions of people who got injected are now dead.

In this case, the Low IQ people refusing medicine is the same as someone walking straight up to a firefighter and claiming no fire can kill you. I'll trust the person with life experience and has actually dealt with fires before, than a random person who doesn't even know what chemical properties make up fire to begin with.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

data and information that says your chances of survival are better in the hands of a vaccine as opposed to doing nothing at all or even exposing yourself to the virus

Lol. Even good honest data can be manipulated. I don't trust our current regime of mafioso controlled authorities to give us good data either so I'm not taking this experimental gene therapy and if you try to get authorities to make me take it or you try to starve me or block my human right to move around it's going to get real nasty up in here.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

See my post I just made in the other vax thread:

https://saidit.net/s/debatealtright/comments/83w0/some_simple_facts_about_the_covid_vaccines/u5dp

The science is basically settled at this point. Having two shots dramatically reduces your chances of hospitalization. These numbers are no more likely to change then the same gap that separates Men from Women, Blacks from Whites, Dogs from Sponges.

That's what science is. Facts override personal feelings.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

See my post I just made in the other vax thread:

Already read it.

The science is basically settled at this point.

There's no such thing as settled science. That same line is used all the time in relation to black IQ scores and black violence. I encourage you to go back in history and look at how the Jewish commisars justified everything they did (including starving 30 million kulaks) with 'science'. A good start on this technocratic obsession is the documentary series Pandora's Box by Adam Curtis.

I feel like you are ignoring a lot of my debate points. Let me state them again. Even well proven vaccines, such as the polio vaccine, should not be forced on the public. That means I'm ok with millions of people potentially dying of polio. Why do I believe that? Am I a monster? No. My basic argument (that you are constantly side stepping) is that my government and most major institution are controlled by a hostile regime of international Jews that want to kill me and my genetic family. We are not in peace time. We are in 5th gen warfare. This means that not only do they not have the right to force me to take safe and proven vaccines like the polio vaccine but they also can't make me take unproven experimental vaccines like the MRNA vaccine.

A million people might die of polio re-emergence or small pox but hundreds of millions of people will die or be sterilized by these bolshivik monsters that are in power (through vaccine warfare, or passports, or false flags or gun grabs, or water supply corruption, or nuclear war, or economic collapse, etc etc). At this point the regime has lost all legitimacy so you can take all you massaged approved 'data' and, respectfully, shove it up up your backside.

Mandatory vaccination or coerced vaccination is a deal breaker. This is my hill (and many dissidents feel the same). There will be no more talk of mandatory vaccines until there's balkanization or regime change in my country and by regime I mean EVERYONE running the show: media, gov, academics, fortune 500 companies. Everyone. Deport every single last lucifer worshiping anti white Jew out of my homeland and then we can talk about mandatory vaccine from high trust white run pharmaceutical companies operating in the bounds of the new pro white government.

Does this help you understand my position a little better 'radicalcentrist'?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I feel like you are ignoring a lot of my debate points. Let me state them again. Even well proven vaccines, such as the polio vaccine, should not be forced on the public. That means I'm ok with millions of people potentially dying of polio. Why do I believe that? Am I a monster? No. My basic argument (that you are constantly side stepping) is that my government and most major institution are controlled by a hostile regime of international Jews that want to kill me and my genetic family. We are not in peace time. We are in 5th gen warfare. This means that not only do they not have the right to force me to take safe and proven vaccines like the polio vaccine but they also can't make me take unproven experimental vaccines like the MRNA vaccine.

Why don't you apply this reasoning to food? Drinking water? Or even breathable oxygen? What makes vaccines so special that the grand plot for global domination completely circumvents using the military, in favor of tampering with medicine instead?

I'm being honest with you. It really isn't a great conspiracy, that now, of all times in human history, we're suppose to believe it's the Covid vaccine that was created to make everyone slaves of the Jews, when the first country to literally hoard this technology and use it on their own population.... was Israel.

As Markimus has explained in this thread, the anti-vax position requires you to defend so many different positions that come in direct contradiction with each other, while the people who did get all these life saving vaccines have proven themselves to still reproduce or not be a slave.

Edit: We're also long past the idea these vaccines are an experiment. They were already being rolled out near the end of 2020. Pfizer is still the preferred choice worldwide. It's delusional to think any government is just going to yank them from the market, when the same vaccines are playing a crucial role in reopening the economy. The alternative of going back into lockdown is gone. People are exhausted and are fighting for this pandemic to end.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Why don't you apply this reasoning to food? Drinking water? Or even breathable oxygen?

I do. I believe that corporations are compromising these natural resources illegally. These corporation though are controlled by central banking family and these central banking families use the a small group of people (mostly jews race traitor anglos) to stay in power.

What makes vaccines so special that the grand plot for global domination completely circumvents using the military, in favor of tampering with medicine instead?

Because a vaccine is literally a intravenous injection. It's a direct port inside of you. I don't know about you but I have to have a lot of trust in the people that are sticking needles into my body. It's one thing to poison food and water (you can change food habits and purify water) but vaccine is an even quicker delivery system. A needle can kill you, paralyze you, maim you or sterilize you. And to go back to the water thing; maybe you should look into history and see which ethnic group used the tactic of literal well poisoning?

I'm being honest with you. It really isn't a great conspiracy, that now, of all times in human history, we're suppose to believe it's the Covid vaccine that was created to make everyone slaves of the Jews

Jews and the oligarch class are incrementalists. The tech to maim, sterilize or enslave the population through injection wasn't around a hundred years ago but brother wars, and usury, and subversion through degeneracy were and that's where Jews concentrated their efforts. Now that technology and vaccines are more developed Jews are using those as well for power. Again not all Jews are aware of this but the major players are mostly Jews and since many Jews worship money they keep their mouths shut when they do learn about Jewish domination plans because staying quiet and going with the flow is profitable. Slavery is a profitable business. There are very few Jews that speak out when they learn about this worldwide power grab. You should look into Aaron Russo or Bobby Fisher. When white people speak out about it they are just bankrupted, killed or stigmatized as 'conspiracy theorists' or 'racists' or 'supremacists'. We are getting very close to the point that a black person is allowed to kill you if you're a racist. Doesn't that concern you? Doesn't that tell you something is up with the system?

Back to your point about the JQ being a 'conspiracy'. That's exactly what it is. A real conspiracy. I'm not going to do the whole JQ thing because this comment is already too long but there are plenty of DAR threads talking about this Jewish desire for world domination over the goyim. You should seriously look into it. If you have a strong argument against it make a thread and 'disprove' the JQ and I will respectfully here you out.

when the first country to literally hoard this technology and use it on their own population.... was Israel.

You'd understand this if you spent some time on the JQ. Jews are willing to use their own people to achieve their ends. The dissident right isn't sure exactly what's going on with the vaccines either. We aren't making the claim that they are 100% fatal instantly and that the elites are trying to kill everyone in Israel. That's a strawman of our position. All we are saying is that we REALLY don't trust the narrative and that the elites under the right conditions would kill a lot of people to get more power or hold onto power.

As Markimus has explained in this thread, the anti-vax position requires you to defend so many different positions that come in direct contradiction with each other,

So does the pro vax position though. The fatalities are inflated. Covid does not kill that many people and especially not young and middle aged people. Why use a gene therapy, with legal immunity, for a disease that has similar death numbers to the flu? The MRNA test is a lie depending on the cycles used so why trust it? Why are the regular flu deaths so low? Why trust the current anti human regime? Why submit to a control grid in the form of vaccine passports? These are also problems and contradictions with the mainstream narrative. The bottom line is that the people that control central banking and control the world are not good people and they don't deserve to have the power of life and death and freedom of movement over billions of people. This isn't a radical position to take.

Edit: We're also long past the idea these vaccines are an experiment.

I respectfully disagree and I've provided evidence and expert opinion to the contrary in other comments. You ignored that evidence. One thing that you can't seem to grasp is that science is not above politics. Our academics are some of the most cucked and controlled people in society and they are groomed to be cucks from an early age. Anybody with balls in academics is driven out or has their career ruined (lots of people have spoke out about this for decades). This sets up a really dangerous situation for people that don't want to dig into the details academically.

It's delusional to think any government is just going to yank them from the market

One of the 'vaccines' was already pulled from the market.

when the same vaccines are playing a crucial role in reopening the economy.

Are you a real person? Serious question. You use so many media generated buzz words and phrases that I seriously question your background. Who buys into the mainstream on so many talking points? You also speak with the weird air of certainty that I normally only see from people paid off to comment and influence opinion. You frequently appeal to authority as well. Which is a major fallacy and when used repeatedly it just anti debate. You're argument just boils down to 'trust the science bro'. Well I don't because the science is deeply politicized and some would say weaponized.

The alternative of going back into lockdown is gone.

Another stupid mainstream media neuro linguistic processing tactic. Keep this up and you get a 7 day ban. Just talk like a real human please. Forcing my people into lockdown was an assault on the ability for normal working people to make money and feed themselves and their families. If this keeps up you will have millions of people homeless and starving. Thousands will die from suicide. That's a serious act of aggression from oligarchs and they should deeply consider what they are doing because people are going to push back.

People are exhausted and are fighting for this pandemic to end.

This framing assumes that people who won't take the vaccine are causing a 'deadly' pandemic to continue and thus killing innocent people. This is a lie. It's gaslighting and it's really a dangerous line of reasoning because the next step is to label millions of peaceful people (of all racial groups and creeds) 'terrorists' simply because they won't take an experimental gene therapy. I can guarantee you that million of americans and Europeans will defend their right to not get a needle in their arm with a experimental gene therapy. This is non negotiable.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I do. I believe that corporations are compromising these natural resources illegally. These corporation though are controlled by central banking family and these central banking families use the a small group of people (mostly jews race traitor anglos) to stay in power.

So no one gets a vaccine, and no one eats or drinks anything either? You realize the irony of arguing for a population control conspiracy, when more people would die from starving themselves? This is what is referred to as being paranoid.

Because a vaccine is literally a intravenous injection. It's a direct port inside of you. I don't know about you but I have to have a lot of trust in the people that are sticking needles into my body. It's one thing to poison food and water (you can change food habits and purify water) but vaccine is an even quicker delivery system. A needle can kill you, paralyze you, maim you or sterilize you. And to go back to the water thing; maybe you should look into history and see which ethnic group used the tactic of literal well poisoning?

You know what else is quicker than a vaccine? Soldiers lining up civilians against a wall and simply executing them. Which has ALWAYS been the choice of totalitarian governments. I never once heard of Stalin or Mao Zedong say "Damn, I really wish I had a Covid vaccine right now. It would help secure my already 100% ironfist rule of this country". But you keep pushing this idea that a needle is more powerful than all the world's tanks and bullets.

You'd understand this if you spent some time on the JQ. Jews are willing to use their own people to achieve their ends. The dissident right isn't sure exactly what's going on with the vaccines either. We aren't making the claim that they are 100% fatal instantly and that the elites are trying to kill everyone in Israel. That's a strawman of our position. All we are saying is that we REALLY don't trust the narrative and that the elites under the right conditions would kill a lot of people to get more power or hold onto power.

So if vaccine's aren't fatal, what exactly are you arguing? See? It keeps going in circles. First it was mass slavery. Then it was mass death. Now it's "we're not sure if it can even harm you anymore". You need to think critically and understand millions of people aren't volunteering to hurt themselves, they are seeking medical treatment to stop a virus.

So does the pro vax position though. The fatalities are inflated. Covid does not kill that many people and especially not young and middle aged people. Why use a gene therapy, with legal immunity, for a disease that has similar death numbers to the flu? The MRNA test is a lie depending on the cycles used so why trust it? Why are the regular flu deaths so low? Why trust the current anti human regime? Why submit to a control grid in the form of vaccine passports? These are also problems and contradictions with the mainstream narrative. The bottom line is that the people that control central banking and control the world are not good people and they don't deserve to have the power of life and death and freedom of movement over billions of people. This isn't a radical position to take.

The anti-vax position heavily relies on just letting people suffer, which is the same libertarian nonsense that argues humanity can somehow thrive in an anarchist environment. I've said this before, but there are no benefits from watching a population get more sick and hospitalized over time. Why do anti-vax seem to assert the opposite, is beyond all logical thinking.

I respectfully disagree and I've provided evidence and expert opinion to the contrary in other comments. You ignored that evidence. One thing that you can't seem to grasp is that science is not above politics. Our academics are some of the most cucked and controlled people in society and they are groomed to be cucks from an early age. Anybody with balls in academics is driven out or has their career ruined (lots of people have spoke out about this for decades). This sets up a really dangerous situation for people that don't want to dig into the details academically.

Does your "evidence" also say wheelchairs are political? Open heart surgery is political? Flintstones vitamins meant to help kids is political? You must know what IQ is, but somehow you think humanity was never suppose to use our brains to invent healthcare? That's where all of the above came from. It doesn't have to be Left or Right. I believe in saving people because it's both the intelligent and moral thing to do.

One of the 'vaccines' was already pulled from the market.

If you're talking about Astrazeneca, that's not completely true. In fact, plenty of third world countries are just getting new shipments today. It seems to have been a supply issue, kicked off by India undergoing a deadly new wave, that put a halt on it everywhere.

https://www.devex.com/news/how-countries-are-adapting-to-astrazeneca-vaccine-shortages-100319

Pam is not alone. There are millions like her in other countries who don’t know when they’re getting their second dose of AstraZeneca. The vaccine was seen as a lifeline in many low- and middle-income countries which couldn’t get other COVID-19 vaccines due to lack of funding or limited supplies, as most doses had been purchased in advance by higher-income countries. But in April, in the middle of a deadly second wave of COVID-19 in India, the Serum Institute had to prioritize domestic supplies. That left a huge supply deficit in low- and middle-income countries relying on the vaccine, and with COVAX, which announced in May a shortfall of 190 million doses by the end of June. Aurélia Nguyen, managing director of COVAX, wrote in a blogpost that COVAX deliveries “will continue to be very lean through July and August.

In the U.S as well, the country didn't reject it out of fear, but because they already have an overabundance of their own vaccines, and they still recommend others to take it, if there's no other choice available.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/government-vaccine-advisers-say-they-don-t-foresee-astrazeneca-vaccine-being-used-in-the-u-s-1.5381038 "We already have contracted for enough vaccines, from Moderna and from Pfizer and from [Johnson &Johnson]," he said. "There is no plan to immediately start utilizing the AstraZeneca [vaccine] even if it gets approved through the EUA, which it very well might." Fauci said it wasn't because of the AstraZeneca vaccine itself, but rather that it's not necessary in the US right now. "It's not any indictment against the product. We just have a lot of vaccines," he said.

Are you a real person? Serious question. You use so many media generated buzz words and phrases that I seriously question your background. Who buys into the mainstream on so many talking points? You also speak with the weird air of certainty that I normally only see from people paid off to comment and influence opinion. You frequently appeal to authority as well. Which is a major fallacy and when used repeatedly it just anti debate. You're argument just boils down to 'trust the science bro'. Well I don't because the science is deeply politicized and some would say weaponized.

Saying vaccines are crucial to re-opening is no more politicized than saying math is needed to build a standing tower. Of course I trust the science on this. It's the only reason anyone knows why it's considered safe to reopen. And the evidence is all around you.

There was a fitness gym that was just in the news. They were told to not open. They disobeyed and did so anyway. The results? They had an immediate outbreak and actually had to close down again...

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-gym-using-loophole-to-stay-open-now-closed-due-to-covid-19-outbreak-1.5500384

You have to start seeing a pattern by now. Virus denial doesn't work, and it even leaves many of these disbelievers in a worse off state. I'm trying to help you by warning you why these people always end up wrong and suffer consequences.

Another stupid mainstream media neuro linguistic processing tactic. Keep this up and you get a 7 day ban. Just talk like a real human please. Forcing my people into lockdown was an assault on the ability for normal working people to make money and feed themselves and their families. If this keeps up you will have millions of people homeless and starving. Thousands will die from suicide. That's a serious act of aggression from oligarchs and they should deeply consider what they are doing because people are going to push back.

I'm literally stating a fact. Just look at the gym link I posted above. Once people get sick in a closed environment, it's consider a public health threat. No different to if a meat plant had a disease outbreak and workers are expected to touch food. There are no lockdowns with no new infections. Hence a vaccinated population is considered important. They wont lockdown anymore when no more cases exist.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

This framing assumes that people who won't take the vaccine are causing a 'deadly' pandemic to continue and thus killing innocent people. This is a lie. It's gaslighting and it's really a dangerous line of reasoning because the next step is to label millions of peaceful people (of all racial groups and creeds) 'terrorists' simply because they won't take an experimental gene therapy. I can guarantee you that million of americans and Europeans will defend their right to not get a needle in their arm with a experimental gene therapy. This is non negotiable.

And spreading a deadly disease is non negotiable. Once again, why are you defending the need to infect other people? No masks, no social distancing, it's not a surprise we ended up with this crisis because the libertarian style of rule never works. Perhaps your flaw is you think every human being is a genius and would limit contact with other people? I'm telling you, you overestimate the average citizen. There are in fact, millions of idiots who exist on the left side of the bell curve. If they cough and spit on people, they are transferring their germs and viruses to other people and in effect, are getting them killed.

This idea that life saving medicine is somehow more dangerous than actual virus spreaders who can't stop gathering in groups when told not to, is completely unfounded.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Does this help you understand my position a little better 'radicalcentrist'?

Throughout human history, I have never heard of medicine being a tool of population control.

What makes China or the USSR so powerful is not because they injected everyone with some secret serum. It was actually because they both have large standing armies who are completely obedient to the state, and are willing to exercise their might on their own population.

Meanwhile, the only people even authorized to administer Covid vaccines are doctors. Again, for this conspiracy to really work, you believe all doctors on Earth signed a secret pact with Jews to either poison or mind control every patient who approaches them for help? What would a doctor even get from killing their main (and only) sources of income?

[–]Node 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

What would a doctor even get from killing their main (and only) sources of income?

What doctor in 2021 gets their income from patients?

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

^

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Patients pay taxes, that's used to fund and maintain hospitals.

You think killing all these people is going to leave the medical industry in a better position?

Edit: And well, private clinics can ask for money directly from patients too.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

medicine being a tool of population control.

That's because this type of information gets classified as sensitive to national security interests and hidden from the public. We do know that the national socialist government headed by Uncle A studied the poisoning of water and natural resources as a weapon of war. (Most likely to defend against such acts not to use them offensively). All that info fell into US and UK hands after the war. Do you really think the the US, Chinese, Russian and European nations haven't looking into water, and medicines as vectors of attack on a populace??

What makes China or the USSR so powerful is not because they injected everyone with some secret serum. It was actually because they both have large standing armies who are completely obedient to the state, and are willing to exercise their might on their own population.

I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here.

Again, for this conspiracy to really work,

Please stop strawmanning.

you believe all doctors on Earth signed a secret pact with Jews

Historically Jews go into the medical field in droves. A large percentage of doctors in the western world are Jews. We know that doctors collaborated to kill officials in Stalin's government. They were caught and Stalin was going to purge again before he 'mysteriously' died. The medical field is riddled with people that have questionable morals. Just because someone is a doctor doesn't mean they wouldn't do radical things for power and money. I've also stated in some other threads that intelligent people are not immune to propaganda and disinformation. You can trick doctors just like you can trick normal people.

doctors on Earth signed a secret pact with Jews to either poison or mind control every patient who approaches them for help?

Another strawman. Dissidents don't know the exact plans of elites. We do know that they are constantly fucking over and exploiting the population. We do know that they are willing to kill large numbers of people. We do know they spend millions of dollars to put up monuments about "Maintaining humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.". We do know that jews throughout history are constantly fetishizing white population reduction, fetishizing world control through slavery. We do know that Jews are disproportionately represented in positions of power; coincidentally, all the positions of power you would need to hold to pull of a depopulation or world wide control grid scenario.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's because this type of information gets classified as sensitive to national security interests and hidden from the public. We do know that the national socialist government headed by Uncle A studied the poisoning of water and natural resources as a weapon of war. (Most likely to defend against such acts not to use them offensively). All that info fell into US and UK hands after the war. Do you really think the the US, Chinese, Russian and European nations haven't looking into water, and medicines as vectors of attack on a populace??

If they have, what is their reason for not employing it right away? The Communists have always taken away food, but they never came back and replaced it with tainted wheat. The reason they don't this is because you're adding extra layers to a conspiracy where there is none.

Communists took food away because they preferred to let citizens starve. They were never interested in feeding them.

I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here.

There is no historical example of these countries choosing to rule using only tainted medicine. They rule using actual foot soldiers instead.

And that kinda puts a knife into your conspiracy. Why doesn't anyone just start a new government, and seize control of the population using vaccines? It seems like the easiest thing to get away with, yet there are no examples...

Historically Jews go into the medical field in droves. A large percentage of doctors in the western world are Jews. We know that doctors collaborated to kill officials in Stalin's government. They were caught and Stalin was going to purge again before he 'mysteriously' died. The medical field is riddled with people that have questionable morals. Just because someone is a doctor doesn't mean they wouldn't do radical things for power and money. I've also stated in some other threads that intelligent people are not immune to propaganda and disinformation. You can trick doctors just like you can trick normal people.

Show me stats of most Western doctors being Jews? I only see stats that say 56% of Doctors are White, and another 17% are Asian.

https://birminghamwatch.org/health-care-disparities-black-doctors-rare-local-physicians-experience-may-point-way-toward-building-numbers/

Another strawman. Dissidents don't know the exact plans of elites. We do know that they are constantly fucking over and exploiting the population. We do know that they are willing to kill large numbers of people. We do know they spend millions of dollars to put of monuments about "Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.". We do know that jews throughout history are constantly fetishizing white population reduction JPG , fetishizing world control through slavery JPG . We do know that Jews are disproportionately JPG represented in positions of power JPG ; coincidentally, all the positions of power you would need to hold to pull of a depopulation or world wide control grid scenario.

All of which can exist independently or have nothing to do with vaccines.

[–]AngusMacCuckywuck[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (31 children)

Poor whites are also more racist while the "high IQ" are usually the biggest woke shitlibs. I guess woke shitlibs are right then because muh IQ?

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    [–]AngusMacCuckywuck[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    sauce pls

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

    Vaccines were never meant to be politicized, whereas race does. So shitlibs are correct, but in the same way arguing over an engineer being better at math.

    Medicine was never a Left or Right-wing position.

    [–]Yin 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (27 children)

    This "vax" is for herding retarded sheep. It isn't "medicine".

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

    Herding them to do what?

    If there's suppose to be an antennae telling everyone to donate their money to Israel, lets see it.

    [–]Yin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

    Herding them into submitting to a global control system. "Covid passports" are the start.

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

    What if it's possible we end Covid first, and deal with the central banking stuff right after? Has anyone thought of that?

    It was never an "either or" proposition that all these anti-vax conspiracies love to push. People can eradicate a disease, and still support nationalism. There's no contradiction. The will to live should actually push more people into this direction, instead of dying in a hospital with a tube up your nose because you seriously thought Jews placed all their bets on stopping you with medicine.

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      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

      Covid deaths are on a sharp decline irrespective of "vaccine" experiments, thanks to a build-up of natural herd immunity.

      That doesn't line up with the evidence.

      As of July 2021, more and more news stories points towards the unvaccinated still being culled. Whereas it is completely rare for someone who has their second dose to be both hospitalized and die.

      https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/08/covid-vaccines-nearly-all-deaths-hospitalizations-among-unvaccinated.html

      Covid was not much more deadly than a serious strain of flu. Almost everyone had natural immunities to it.

      Covid was asymptomatic. People who didn't think they had it, still ended up taking the virus with them to large parties and contaminated everyone. This is something that has to be drilled into every anti-vaxxers head. It's not just about deaths, it's how the virus proved to be a bigger nuisance to deal with than the flu ever was.

      Hysteria responses happened not because of covid. "Covid" didn't "cause" that. Globalists and their propaganda machines set the world's agenda.

      Naw, the idiots who hedged their bets on a random Chinese virus being the perfect globalist scheme, even as it got their friends and family killed, is what lead to the emergency shut down of society. And that's what pissess me off.

      Covid is a disease that does not discriminate. Rich or poor, doing absolutely nothing to stop it put a huge burden on people who were already living paycheck to paycheck, doing the dirtiest jobs that no one else wanted to do.

      There are much more plausible conspiracies out there. Like big corporations refusing to pay taxes, or overthrowing foreign governments to seize their oil. But wearing a mask on your face is not the equivalent of slavery or a secret plot to support Israel. Again, the conspiracy theorists all hedged their bets on the wrong agenda, and the results are literally millions of people dead because they thought it was a "harmless flu". Was it worth it?

      That is the rhetoric of a leftist.

      Leftists were advocating open borders. By supporting unlimited movement, they brought foreign diseases to our shores, and now anti-vaxxers are the ones defending letting viruses stay here. This pandemic is actually a lesson to how Nationalism should be used to save lives.

      I don't want my government inviting sick foreigners into my country without at least quarantining them for 2 weeks. If anyone refuses to follow that, then ban them from ever entering.

      [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      But poor whites are even more hesitant than poor non-whites.

      Much like your last post you make many claims but don't provide even a shred of evidence. Radicalcentrist is at least trying to back his ideas up. Do you have any evidence for this claim?