Opinion on COVID vaccination

submitted by AngusMacCuckywuck from (self.debatealtright)

I have seen some vaccine shills here so I would be interested in seeing the general consensus. Since ZOG is increasingly threatening to force vaccination, and the main group likely to refuse the Jew juice are low-income White people, I see this as an important issue for white nationalists to form a base among the White proles. Especially since the woke left have exposed the fraud of its claim to represent the working class with its fanatical pro-vax shit.

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[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

The persistent push for COVID vaccinations is to pave way for mandatory vaccinations otherwise you cannot use airlines, trains, etc or participate at social venues. It is hard to tell if this normalization is necessary for the elites to one day slip in a vaccine that sterilizes or culls a portion of the population or based on pure greed. It will become another subscription service where every few months you have purchase a "booster" shot or get the latest vaccine that increases resistance against a new viral strain. If the government doesn't enforce it by law in your country they will allow global corporations to enforce on employees and potentially customers making it a defacto standard. It is not worth risking mandatory vaccines especially when it is pushed by an elite that despises your very being.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It is hard to tell if this normalization is necessary for the elites to one day slip in a vaccine that sterilizes or culls a portion of the population or based on pure greed.

For something like this to happen, any Elite group would need to set a precedent, by producing a vaccine that kills people in complete secret. But that contains a huge flaw. I'll use an example of the Jim Jones death cult. They were squeezing poisoned tainted needles into every cult member. But the victims only had 30 minutes to live before dropping dead.

If someone tries to pull this off today but on a massive scale, it would have to be done perfectly with absolutely no hiccups for anyone to notice they're about to die. Which to be honest, sounds like an absurd and rather, incredibly inefficient way of even "culling" a population.

The current trend with Covid-19 vaccines is that there have been massive shortages. Even for the people who wanted to get a 1st or 2nd dose, they literally had to wait months in-between shots before supply officially kept up with demand. Now I'm trying to imagine how is someone in the future going to fulfill a demand for "death vaccines", especially as I said earlier, administering this kind of lethal technology can't be done with any flaws in the test run. It has to be perfect or the entire idea behind it comes crumbling down...

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

For something like this to happen, any Elite group would need to set a precedent, by producing a vaccine that kills people in complete secret. But that contains a huge flaw. I'll use an example of the Jim Jones death cult. They were squeezing poisoned tainted needles into every cult member. But the victims only had 30 minutes to live before dropping dead.

I am not talking about a Jim Jones type of vaccine or hemlock poisoning type of death. I am talking about taking a vaccine and developing a deadly auto immune disorders weeks, months or years later. You would not immediately believe it came from a vaccine because by that time vaccination would be normalized and also side effects from taking vaccines. They might not even have to intentionally produce a deadly vaccine because a poorly tested medicine can bring about the same results. Pain reducing narcotics like Oxycodone is a example of this in practice. It is a narcotic used to relieve moderate to severe pain. The company knew about the addictive nature of the drug and forced upon the public by bribing doctors to over subscribe it to patients with moderate pain. For most people, it does not lead to a deadly spiral into drug overdose, however it happens to enough people we should be questioning its proliferation on the market. Also, one of these companies laughed at the people dying from overdose from their drugs as just being junkie drug addicts. These people are despicable and are the same type of people that are developing your vaccines. People should be apprehensive in following the advice from people that only see you as a number on a balance sheet.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If a vaccine takes years to kill someone, what exactly is the purpose of prescribing it in the first place?

People are taking vaccines now because they want to be safe against a virus that exists today, and not 5 or 10 years later.

And that's what has lead to the supply/demand issue, because the market has determined it works, but there isn't enough of this miracle drug to go around.

With narcotics, it's the same idea. It's people who are looking for immediate pain relief, instead of dealing with it constantly forever. And that's perhaps where the overdose deaths come in, especially for someone who might be struggling with some kind of long term illness.

But vaccines are meant to eradicate disease, instead of prolonging them. So again, it's still not an inefficient means of culling people in large numbers, when they are designed for the complete opposite. Nobody really wants to put up with another Covid-like virus even 1 year from now.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If a vaccine takes years to kill someone, what exactly is the purpose of prescribing it in the first place?

If a child takes a vaccine and dies before reproducing, I would say that is an effective way to sterilize a population.

People are taking vaccines now because they want to be safe against a virus that exists today, and not 5 or 10 years later.

Vaccines don't eradicate a virus completely. They will mutate and some of them are carried by animals. Are you going to vaccine all the rats to stop the bubonic plague? There comes a point where you have to be practical and the fact they are pushing a impractical solution on everyone shows they have ulterior motivations.

Vaccines should be voluntary and targeted at groups that are at risk like old people or people with preexisting medical conditions that will put their life in danger from a contagious virus. Normal people that can struggle through a bad flu should not be forced to take a vaccine. What they should be trying to normalize is people taking sick days, wearing a mask if you think you have symptoms or just practicing cleanliness.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If a child takes a vaccine and dies before reproducing, I would say that is an effective way to sterilize a population.

Unless you live in Africa, where adult mortality outpaces child birth by a long shot, it absolutely would not sterilize the population.

https://www.populationpyramid.net/united-states-of-america/2020/

Only 9% of America's population falls under the Age of 18, and if this is a drug that still takes year to kill/sterilize people, than that's enough time for all the 16 year old's to have kids before they somehow start dropping off.

Vaccines don't eradicate a virus completely.

Then you're not following the news. Israel is pretty close to being completely vaccinated and they've gone weeks and even months without a new death. The most recent death that was reported yesterday actually came from an unvaccinated person, which is the equivalent of performing natural selection and removing yourself from the gene pool.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/coronavirus-deaths-reported-in-israel-for-first-time-in-over-2-weeks/

Edit: Correction. There where 2 deaths. A 48 year old man who wasn't vaccinated and an 86 year old who had his 2 shots. But look at the damn age difference. The younger and unvaxxed people are still at a higher risk of dying than an old man who was already on his way out anyway.

Normal people that can struggle through a bad flu should not be forced to take a vaccine. What they should be trying to normalize is people taking sick days, wearing a mask if you think you have symptoms or just practicing cleanliness.

No, I refuse to see this reckless advice get pushed anymore. It only takes one infected person to get an entire meat factory or school shut down just because of how contagious the Covid virus is. It literally costs more money and human lives to try and "normalize" Covid, as opposed to eradicating the disease completely. The medicine is here, and it's proven to work with 99% efficiency. Ask yourself, when are the billions of people who have already taken the vaccine suppose to drop dead? Because that's the world you're literally hinging your bets on if you think everyone chose to commit suicide as opposed to being the ones who will actually outlive this pandemic.

[–]shilldetector 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You're such an obvious troll. Who calls it the jew jab or jew juice? This is literally the first time I ever heard either one of those. Jews had little to nothing to do with developing the vaccine. I believe most of the heavy lifting for developing the science behind the RNA vaccines came from Germany, with some US and UK involvement in the finished products. Obviously there may have been some involvement by individual Jews, but to characterize it as somehow primarily or even substantially Jewish is not based on anything except your bizarre ramblings.

The Israelis did aggressively attempt to develop a vaccine using a shitload of diaspora money and investment, along with the tons of aid they already get from the west, but they got nowhere. Russia did also develop a vaccine that seems to be largely successful.

As for opinion on the vaccine. I definitely wouldn't call myself alt right and my exposure to them basically consists of this sub and maybe a couple of alternative websites that may have a little bit of overlap with their views, but from what I've seen opinion among them seems to vary greatly just like the general population.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These weirdos always use the lingo in clunky ways or just overuse it. You can also usually tell because it's like something they imagine all us evil nazis might enjoy saying in their weird little brains. He blew it though when in another post he unironically called 'poor whites' racist. Couldn't help himself. Last post as well was just a long and evidence free demoralisation rant.

Whoever is sending these people isn't sending their best.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Israel was aggressively vaccinating their people from this in the hopes of as little kikes dying as possible, yet we're to believe the vaccines are a bioweapon.

Schizo narratives so far, chronologically:

1) Coronavirus is a bioweapon to wipe out humanity

2) Coronavirus isn't real, every single government in the world is in kahoots to take away muh freedoms

3) This again but it's a conspiracy to make everyone poor but the rich richer (not a conspiracy, rich people with loads of resources and power just used the opportunity. obviously)

4) The vaccine is a bioweapon to kill all of humanity except jews, watch how the jews won't take it but they'll force it on everyone else

5) Israel was the first to vaccinate all their people Oh uh actually the jews have a secret vaccine, all the others are the bioweapons

All schizo narratives are just retcons, they make up outlandish shit then change their story every time they're proven wrong. Obviously in every situation powerful/rich people make things benefit themselves, because they're the ones with the power to do so.

[–]shilldetector 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

One has to wonder how Israel was able to get ahold of so many vaccines before everyone else. The shameless bribing, guilt tripping, pressure tactics and ethnic nepotism from wealthy diaspora jews that probably went into that. I know in the US there were orthodox communities caught obtaining and distributing it amongst themselves at a time it was supposed to be reserved only for high risk people. The media of course largely ignored the scandals or made sure not to include photos or names, but it was still obvious who it was.

[–]TheJamesRocket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Israel was aggressively vaccinating their people from this

And yet, surprisingly enough, Israel has suffered the same number of deaths as every other country did from taking the vaccine. It looks like someone finally managed to out-Jew them. Israels leaders got suckered like all the others did.

Check this out: ''We conclude that the Pfizer vaccines, for the elderly, killed during the 5-week vaccination period about 40 times more people than the disease itself would have killed, and about 260 times more people than the disease among the younger age class. We stress that this is in order to produce a green passport valid at most 6 months, and promote Pfizer sales.''

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

And yet, surprisingly enough, Israel has suffered the same number of deaths as every other country did from taking the vaccine.

It's not surprising to people who don't think there's some nonsensical conspiracy to randomly hurt people that benefits literally no one.

It looks like someone finally managed to out-Jew them. Israels leaders got suckered like all the others did.

Ok, who? Who has power? Jews have power. Ok so who is capable of organising every company making vaccines in order to instruct them to make harmful substances in order to hurt everyone including the jews without the jews having any knowledge of this but a bunch of schizos on the internet managed to figure all of this out but they couldn't quite figure out who, just what? You see how when you actually think about it for a second this just sounds retarded?

If everyone except the jews was having issues I would believe there's a conspiracy, since also jews are included then obviously there's no conspiracy because they're the ones with power.

''We conclude that the Pfizer vaccines, for the elderly, killed during the 5-week vaccination period about 40 times more people than the disease itself would have killed, and about 260 times more people than the disease among the younger age class.

Yea in a 5 week period, but how many of these people would have died if they got the virus? Or how many more people would have caught it from them and died? During this 5 week period, amongst the people who didn't die, did it stop the spread of the virus in the future? How many potential lives were saved? It's very easy to manipulate statistics to say what you want them to say. I'm not even saying the vaccines are safe, they're probably not. But this isn't convincing at all, it's very obviously cherry picked.

If you think the vaccine is unsafe because it was rushed, fair enough don't take it if you don't want to. I just don't see why people are posting dumb theories. When you question any of the conspiracy narratives you can quickly see the glaring holes. When you look at how they present data/statistics to you about vaccine deaths, you can see pretty clearly how they're cherry picking too.

[–]Republican58America First! 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Attali, the kissinger of France wrote the need for depopulation of idiots in a book. He said it would be great if a faulty vaccine was made that people sterile or killed them and it ended up eliminating gullible humans.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

So why is it that the people the elites love are getting the vaccine and the people they hate are getting endless anti-vax propaganda and libtard opposition to purposely make you root yourself further against the vaccine?

Why would they kill off all of their own supporters? The people who aren't getting the vaccine are all people who are white, poor, rural etc. If the elites wanted to kill people off they'd be giving only these people the vaccine and saying there's some magical herd immunity in urban areas so urban people don't need it. They made it high status to take the vaccine and low status to not take it. You people need to think through your narratives because they make literally zero sense.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

People are being replaced by robots. Useless eaters (old, sick, stupid, welfare, etc) are "useless". From 8 billion down to 1/2 billion won't be easy but it's their goal. A few sick slaves that can still serve you are better than many strong slaves that can organize and rise up against you. They are in the open and the Internet has helped expose them despite their propaganda. They need to do this. We need to resist and keep waking folks up. This is class war, as are all other wars under it.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Well this makes no sense when compared with reality. Let's be generous and pretend that our current elite have only had total power since the end of the second world war.

Population then: 2.5 billion~

Population now: 8 billion~

Why did they pump up global population with infrastructure, aid, medical care, agricultural development etc especially focusing on developing the global south which is responsible for the vast majority of this boom if they're just going to kill them? Why do they continue doing wealth transfers from the global north to the global south?

The agenda is to increase the global population, all signs point to them continuing the path they've been consciously traveling for the last century. There's literally nothing to suggest that they're secretly actually trying to kill everyone, if they are then I am happy to tell you that the world elite that controls pretty much everything have literally no power because exactly the opposite of what they want is happening somehow.

[–]douglas_waltersWhite Supremacist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The agenda is to increase the global population

I suppose the UN didn’t get the memo?

The continuing development of technology and spread of liberalism will lower the global birth rates to a healthy level, producing the ideal of a high, but stable population — this is the plan. Incentives for sterilisation will become normalised.

The reality of finite resources and their vision of a globalised, hyperconsumerist society will exist in equilibrium. Europeans, the biggest threat to this utopia, will have been replaced by lower IQ, docile mixed breeds who form the optimal serf-class.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Hah?

producing the ideal of a high, but stable population

This is exactly in line with what I said. They want to increase the population to a specific level they deem stable. Who knows what that is. Nowhere here are they proposing genociding everyone except 500 million people.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Compare the horse population of 1850 to 1950.

focusing on developing the global south

Depends what you mean by "developing". Sure the invested in it to build up the resource extraction and the workers needed for it. They also built up sweatshop industries to clothe and manufacture the goods for the workers. When those workers are no longer needed then you no longer need the goods, clothes, food, etc.

wealth transfers from the global north to the global south

Not sure what this means. Yes, a lot of billionaires built mansions and bunkers in New Zealand. Brazil has obscene wealth disparity. China is investing in Africa in order to extract their natural resources while the USA is trying to take it by force. What is this transfer you speak of? Why haven't I heard of it before?

If you think the ruling class cares about the poor anywhere you're sadly mistaken. And you need to catch up on the depopulation /s/Agenda21_Agenda2030.

There's literally nothing to suggest that they're secretly actually trying to kill everyone,

You're correct. There's nothing secret about it.
https://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

1) ?????

2) Develop as in exponentially increase the population due to more food, medicine, infrastructure etc being in place to allow their population to increase. If the elite wanted less population why would they be doing these things?

3) The Paris Accord is an example. Charity is an example. Any spending by states and oligarchs in our countries that is being put into less developed countries. It has led to increasing populations across the board all over Asia, Africa and South America. By analysing what has actually happened, and the policies and actions continually being pursued we can see that the western elite (jewry and capitalists generally) aren't trying to decrease the global population, they're trying to increase it.

4) When did I say they cared about them? They're just multiplying them so they have more slaves. Your point is that the plutocratic oligarchy of the west has a NWO agenda or whatever to bring the world population down to 500 million, I am telling you based on their historical actions and what they're continuing to do today the exact opposite agenda is being pursued.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

1) Horses were work-slaves, as people are/were. With the invention of the car and robot respectively they're no longer needed.

2) "Developing" does NOT mean populating. It's in reference to technology, from primitive to hi-tech. The ruling class DID want a slave population, developed just enough to be useful, but are now transitioning to robots.

3) Overall they're trying to decrease it. Wars, sanctions, famines, vaccines, etc. A weak slave that serves is far better than a healthy slave that might overthrow you. Sure they've removed the Chinese 1-Child policy but that's what they do - they juxtapose one nation against another and contrast them to keep them weak. American infrastructure is failing on purpose as the globalists exported all industry ages ago for this reason, among many.

4) If they're just multiplying them so they have more slaves, why are they promoting UBI?

Not just the West. The globalist Zioinists run the UN and are the NWO.

Agree to disagree. In 2030 we can look at the statistics if we're still alive - and if they can be believed, and see what happened to global populations.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm not saying I believe this 100%, i'm just putting it out there.

As for the motive. The idea in the book is that the pandemic is a sham and its obviously so. His idea was that only incredibly conformist and gullible people would take the vaccine, and thus be eliminated.

The elites don't have any love for their underlings or supporters. Just because they fly the banner of BLM doesn't mean they actually adore blacks. If that was the case, they'd use their billions to make free houses for blacks instead of letting them rot in the hood.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

As for the motive. The idea in the book is that the pandemic is a sham and its obviously so. His idea was that only incredibly conformist and gullible people would take the vaccine, and thus be eliminated.

Yeah and for the reasons I stated, this narrative makes no sense. The conformist gullible people are the ones the elite need, why the fuck would they kill them off and be left with a bunch of highly individualistic anti-government whites?

The elites don't have any love for their underlings or supporters. Just because they fly the banner of BLM doesn't mean they actually adore blacks. If that was the case, they'd use their billions to make free houses for blacks instead of letting them rot in the hood.

Who's talking about blacks? Not me. I'm talking about the bootlicking libtards. You can't say with a straight face you believe the system wants to wipe out its managerial class. You think they want to get rid of all their catladies, HR, antifa, teachers, journalists etc. The entire clerical class of capitalism, they want to wipe them out? To what end?

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Don't know. Perhaps they want to remove dead weight from the human race? They have long talked about depopualtion and I agree with them. The planet needs fewer and better people. Getting rid of NPC lemmings would radically improve the human species and remove the burden on the ecosystem.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If they got rid of their enforcers it would be very easy for a populist uprising to occur with the remaining stock.

Imagine if a year from now all the journos, politicians, police/fbi/cia/antifa, HR departments, social media censors etc were just gone. We'd have a revolution in literally like 15 minutes, there's zero chance this is the agenda.

If they're going to depopulate people they would get rid of dissenters first, not their first line of defence.

[–]TheJamesRocket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Perhaps they plan to launch a deadlier strain of the coronavirus to kill off the unvaccinated? Or perhaps the vaccines will result in the mutation of the virus, so that it becomes deadlier? Its hard to say what their true motive is here. At a minimum, the vaccines will probably sterilize lots of people.

[–]yoke 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

1st of it's not fucking 5G.

you prolly should get it if ur relatively healthy.

civil liberty is important but not getting vaccinated is definitely not how it's done. you need to have health in order to exercise power.

elect trump after this covid shit is killed. or someone like him. not too hard to find.

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    [–]yoke 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    negative nancy

    [–]Yin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    Go get your NWO low IQ booster juice.

    [–]yoke 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    https://foaas.com/bag/yoke

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      [–]yoke 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      i bet different XD

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        [–]yoke 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        the more you care, the more we all know XD

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          [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Biden IS like Trump.

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            [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

            All the rich people take it, all the people they like take it

            Israel was the first to go crazy with the vaccine

            All the people elites hate are having anti-vax propaganda pumped through their media channels 24/7

            The anti-vax thing is likely to be a jewish psyop to be honest. I imagine a bunch of Sackler types wringing their hands together thinking about how many stupid poor white goys will die because they've fallen for schizo propaganda.

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              [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

              lol good one. not an argument though

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                [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                dont forget to take your meds :^)

                [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                At the risk of sounding like a schizo it could be both. Flood the goyim with a experimental gene therapy that doesn't really work and make them fear vaccines, then dump a very real virus with a real vaccine on the populace and all the stupid ones will refuse to take it and eliminate themselves from the gene pool.

                [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                So essentially what you're saying is they're trying to make Somewheres anti-vax because in the future they're going to produce a bioweapon to wipe them all out?

                I doubt this to be honest but anyway isn't this an argument for ourguys to just take vaccines then so they won't be one of the anti-vaxers that get wiped?

                [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                I'm not against vaccines and would encourage /our guys/ to take vaccines with a long running track record* and legal liability for adverse effects. The polio vaccine really did help eliminate polio to the best of my knowledge. Vaccine science is real (for the most part). That being said I don't think this experimental mrna gene therapy is a vaccine at all. It's a radical departure from traditional vaccines. I also don't think that even REAL vaccines should be mandated by a government or private apparatus. That's just too much power and it's too easily manipulated into a tyrannical weapon. I would probably go as far to stop mandating vaccines for school attendance. That's how little I trust the pharmaceutical industry and the western governments.

                so they won't be one of the anti-vaxers that get wiped?

                I'm not sure. It's just a thought experiment. I have so much distrust of medical, academics, and the government that I'll entertain almost any scenario. The people running our institutions are psychopaths with no humanity or moral center. Everything is strategy, power, and accumulation impulses. Personally I won't be taking any vaccines for the foreseeable future even if a new virus emerges with a very real death count. It would take a LOT of evidence to convince me to take any vaccine at this point (so maybe their plan worked?).

                *with the caveat that infants do NOT need 80 plus vaccines taken immediately after birth. Vaccines schedules should be narrowed and spaced out for children. Developing brains and bodies are quite fragile and I do think that excessive vaccination at very young ages can be damaging.

                [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                MRNA is not a vaccine. It's expiremental gene therapy with legal immunity produced by pharmaceutical companies who have a long track record of maiming and killing.

                https://i.postimg.cc/mggXnxDJ/1625656874099.jpg

                To top it off you have a media aparatus that's decided the gene therapy is safe and that hiding adverse gene therapy affects is a righteous thing to do.

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                            [–]douglas_waltersWhite Supremacist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                            1. It sets a precedent for future policies that could be more invasive or forceful under the guise of “public health and safety”.

                            2. I’m not concerned about the loss of non-white or white traitor lives. For others, it’s an unfortunate matter of natural selection. If I were to fall to a virus with a 0.02% fatality rate, I would accept the unsuitability of my body to pass on genes.

                            3. Almost any soft rebellion against anti-white governments is a good thing. It’s our moral imperative to be disobedient rather than submissive and docile.

                            Those are a few reasons off the top of my head. My primary concern is how rushed these experimental vaccines have been pushed. Potential long-term side effects are unknown. Young, healthy adults have no benefit to being guinea pigs in the face of such a pathetic “pandemic” (scary word, right?).

                            The vast majority of anti-vax folk are race-blind normies anyway, so our opinions are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

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                              [–]douglas_waltersWhite Supremacist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                              Yeah, proof of vaccination to access certain public facilities is already a feature in many Western countries already.

                              But when I say “precedent”, I mean an example like government-sponsored apps (e.g. Australia) used to log the private data of its citizens. Can’t you see how the application of this technology can be adjusted from virus or vaccine-tracking to dissident blacklisting with a few tweaks?

                              Mind you, my opposition to such monitoring doesn’t come from a classical liberal argument of civil liberties, but a practical concern regarding the health of our movement.

                              The main problem we face is the demographic replacement of our people, but it’s not like encouraging general disobedience contradicts this. The biggest obstacle to racial consciousness is how pacified and apathetic the average individual is. Thus, I would argue stirring the pot potentially produces net benefits in the long-term that we could channel and redirect at the proper target(s).

                              [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

                              the main group likely to refuse the Jew juice are low-income White people

                              Citation needed.

                              Anyone with common sense or who recognizes the well-earned mistrust of "authority" will resist.

                              People are being replaced by robots. "Useless eaters" (old, sick, stupid, welfare, etc) are considered useless by the ruling class and need to be put down, not put out to pasture consuming resources, despite the life-long promises of pensions and retirements. When have they ever kept their word?

                              From 8 billion down to 1/2 billion won't be easy but it's their stated goal.

                              A few sick slaves that can still serve you are better than many strong slaves that can organize and rise up against you. They are in the open and the Internet has helped expose them despite their propaganda. They need to do this. We need to resist and keep waking folks up. This is class war, as are all other wars under it.

                              [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                              I've heard that half of medical providers are not taking the jab. That should tell any logical person that something is going on here.

                              [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                              I've heard that too. And all evidence points to their depopulation /s/Agenda21_Agenda2030 as the motive.

                              Not all medical providers are White.

                              [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                              These "vaccines" are, all at the same time, a test of character, a way for the Jew-owned "governments" to increase their totalitarianism, a way for them to keep us fighting each other by forcing the creation of two classes of citizenry, a way for them to DIRECTLY monitor and control each of their slaves, and possibly even more. Each point explained below:

                              1. A test of character: You are sheeple. And if you think you aren't, we'll MAKE you sheeple. Take the vax OR ELSE you will be shunned by your peers, you will be in the second class of prole, you will be unable to go to public places etc. If after all our propaganda, brainwashing, pressure, peer pressure, inconvenience, and more, you STILL won't take it, then maybe you're not a "useless eater". So we'll leave some loopholes for you, because even though we, the Jews, think we're god's only chosen people, we might still need the best humans for something.

                              2. A way for the Jew-owned "governments" to increase their totalitarianism: Erasing the Right to body integrity is the last frontier to absolute totalitarianism. Vile Hates has filed a patent for a technology that allows some sort of nanomachine to detect EXACTLY WHAT an individual is doing at any given time, and perhaps even thinking, and to mine a cryptocurrency with your biological energy using these nanobots/nanocomputers. 5G is of course another technological building block that allows such a deep totalitarianism.

                              3. A way for them to keep us fighting each other: Vaxxed against unvaxxed, the divide-and-conquer agenda is still going strong. Add this on top of commies VS people with brains, LGBTQ VS actual people, BLM against whites, the lower net worth portion of the population against the higher net worth portion, gen Z against gen X, mills, boomers, etc.

                              4. See 2.

                              [–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                              I won't be taking the experimental gene therapy and no person or entity, not even the government, has the power to force it on me. I already had covid and it was a total nothing-burger. This so-called, "Delta," variant may be more infectious but, has even less severe symptoms than the original strain which, had a 99.97% survival rate.

                              With that said, there's no point arguing/debating the efficacy of the experimental gene therapy because those who want it already took it and those who don't want it haven't taken it. The ONLY debate worth having is what actions to take if the government decides to unconstitutionally mandate it.

                              [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (63 children)

                              and the main group likely to refuse the Jew juice are low-income White people,

                              This is incorrect. Vaccine hesitation is actually higher among non-white groups. And shocker it's based off ridiculous myths and conspiracies surrounded by "white supremacy".

                              https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/vaccine-hesitancy-statcan-says-black-latinx-canadians-least-willing-to-take-covid-19-shot-1.5371783

                              Which is ironic since both groups are literally the ones dying off at a higher rate from Covid.

                              https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-race-ethnicity.html

                              It's going to be really weird for me to explain in 10 years from now that there actually was a contingent part of the population who refused life saving medicine. Vaccines have been used throughout history to eradicate preventable diseases, so watching people today play roulette with their lives when there's zero reason to do so is unfathomable. But here we are.

                              [–]AngusMacCuckywuck[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (59 children)

                              Because non-whites are poorer, and refusing the jewjab is heavily correlated with class. But poor whites are even more hesitant than poor non-whites.

                              [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (57 children)

                              So you want to be poor [and by correlation] low IQ? I honestly think that makes the anti-vax movement look even worse, if the main people opposing it are also the least intelligent...

                              [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (24 children)

                              I've found that intelligent people are more not less likely to fall for group think and propaganda. I think it has something to do with how specialized the current academic and professional disciplines are. Most intelligent people just simply trust other intelligent people instead of spending the time to investigate claims. This is a very smart thing to do in a high trust society with trustworthy civic institutions. This is a deadly thing to do in a society taken over by a high IQ hostile cabal that wants world power and doesn't care how many people that have to kill to achieve it.

                              [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

                              I made a thread about intelligence recently, and it was concluded that anyone who consistently performs better on a single metric, is indeed more smart. The kid who fails Math Class is never going to be more knowledgeable on the same subject than the Teacher or another Student who got A+ in class.

                              Medicine is not politics. I don't care if a shitlib says it. We have real data and information that says your chances of survival are better in the hands of a vaccine as opposed to doing nothing at all or even exposing yourself to the virus. That has nothing to do with Left or Right-wing politics. It's based on numbers and there is no proof that Billions of people who got injected are now dead.

                              In this case, the Low IQ people refusing medicine is the same as someone walking straight up to a firefighter and claiming no fire can kill you. I'll trust the person with life experience and has actually dealt with fires before, than a random person who doesn't even know what chemical properties make up fire to begin with.

                              [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

                              data and information that says your chances of survival are better in the hands of a vaccine as opposed to doing nothing at all or even exposing yourself to the virus

                              Lol. Even good honest data can be manipulated. I don't trust our current regime of mafioso controlled authorities to give us good data either so I'm not taking this experimental gene therapy and if you try to get authorities to make me take it or you try to starve me or block my human right to move around it's going to get real nasty up in here.

                              [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

                              See my post I just made in the other vax thread:

                              https://saidit.net/s/debatealtright/comments/83w0/some_simple_facts_about_the_covid_vaccines/u5dp

                              The science is basically settled at this point. Having two shots dramatically reduces your chances of hospitalization. These numbers are no more likely to change then the same gap that separates Men from Women, Blacks from Whites, Dogs from Sponges.

                              That's what science is. Facts override personal feelings.

                              [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

                              See my post I just made in the other vax thread:

                              Already read it.

                              The science is basically settled at this point.

                              There's no such thing as settled science. That same line is used all the time in relation to black IQ scores and black violence. I encourage you to go back in history and look at how the Jewish commisars justified everything they did (including starving 30 million kulaks) with 'science'. A good start on this technocratic obsession is the documentary series Pandora's Box by Adam Curtis.

                              I feel like you are ignoring a lot of my debate points. Let me state them again. Even well proven vaccines, such as the polio vaccine, should not be forced on the public. That means I'm ok with millions of people potentially dying of polio. Why do I believe that? Am I a monster? No. My basic argument (that you are constantly side stepping) is that my government and most major institution are controlled by a hostile regime of international Jews that want to kill me and my genetic family. We are not in peace time. We are in 5th gen warfare. This means that not only do they not have the right to force me to take safe and proven vaccines like the polio vaccine but they also can't make me take unproven experimental vaccines like the MRNA vaccine.

                              A million people might die of polio re-emergence or small pox but hundreds of millions of people will die or be sterilized by these bolshivik monsters that are in power (through vaccine warfare, or passports, or false flags or gun grabs, or water supply corruption, or nuclear war, or economic collapse, etc etc). At this point the regime has lost all legitimacy so you can take all you massaged approved 'data' and, respectfully, shove it up up your backside.

                              Mandatory vaccination or coerced vaccination is a deal breaker. This is my hill (and many dissidents feel the same). There will be no more talk of mandatory vaccines until there's balkanization or regime change in my country and by regime I mean EVERYONE running the show: media, gov, academics, fortune 500 companies. Everyone. Deport every single last lucifer worshiping anti white Jew out of my homeland and then we can talk about mandatory vaccine from high trust white run pharmaceutical companies operating in the bounds of the new pro white government.

                              Does this help you understand my position a little better 'radicalcentrist'?

                              [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

                              I feel like you are ignoring a lot of my debate points. Let me state them again. Even well proven vaccines, such as the polio vaccine, should not be forced on the public. That means I'm ok with millions of people potentially dying of polio. Why do I believe that? Am I a monster? No. My basic argument (that you are constantly side stepping) is that my government and most major institution are controlled by a hostile regime of international Jews that want to kill me and my genetic family. We are not in peace time. We are in 5th gen warfare. This means that not only do they not have the right to force me to take safe and proven vaccines like the polio vaccine but they also can't make me take unproven experimental vaccines like the MRNA vaccine.

                              Why don't you apply this reasoning to food? Drinking water? Or even breathable oxygen? What makes vaccines so special that the grand plot for global domination completely circumvents using the military, in favor of tampering with medicine instead?

                              I'm being honest with you. It really isn't a great conspiracy, that now, of all times in human history, we're suppose to believe it's the Covid vaccine that was created to make everyone slaves of the Jews, when the first country to literally hoard this technology and use it on their own population.... was Israel.

                              As Markimus has explained in this thread, the anti-vax position requires you to defend so many different positions that come in direct contradiction with each other, while the people who did get all these life saving vaccines have proven themselves to still reproduce or not be a slave.

                              Edit: We're also long past the idea these vaccines are an experiment. They were already being rolled out near the end of 2020. Pfizer is still the preferred choice worldwide. It's delusional to think any government is just going to yank them from the market, when the same vaccines are playing a crucial role in reopening the economy. The alternative of going back into lockdown is gone. People are exhausted and are fighting for this pandemic to end.

                              [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

                              Why don't you apply this reasoning to food? Drinking water? Or even breathable oxygen?

                              I do. I believe that corporations are compromising these natural resources illegally. These corporation though are controlled by central banking family and these central banking families use the a small group of people (mostly jews race traitor anglos) to stay in power.

                              What makes vaccines so special that the grand plot for global domination completely circumvents using the military, in favor of tampering with medicine instead?

                              Because a vaccine is literally a intravenous injection. It's a direct port inside of you. I don't know about you but I have to have a lot of trust in the people that are sticking needles into my body. It's one thing to poison food and water (you can change food habits and purify water) but vaccine is an even quicker delivery system. A needle can kill you, paralyze you, maim you or sterilize you. And to go back to the water thing; maybe you should look into history and see which ethnic group used the tactic of literal well poisoning?

                              I'm being honest with you. It really isn't a great conspiracy, that now, of all times in human history, we're suppose to believe it's the Covid vaccine that was created to make everyone slaves of the Jews

                              Jews and the oligarch class are incrementalists. The tech to maim, sterilize or enslave the population through injection wasn't around a hundred years ago but brother wars, and usury, and subversion through degeneracy were and that's where Jews concentrated their efforts. Now that technology and vaccines are more developed Jews are using those as well for power. Again not all Jews are aware of this but the major players are mostly Jews and since many Jews worship money they keep their mouths shut when they do learn about Jewish domination plans because staying quiet and going with the flow is profitable. Slavery is a profitable business. There are very few Jews that speak out when they learn about this worldwide power grab. You should look into Aaron Russo or Bobby Fisher. When white people speak out about it they are just bankrupted, killed or stigmatized as 'conspiracy theorists' or 'racists' or 'supremacists'. We are getting very close to the point that a black person is allowed to kill you if you're a racist. Doesn't that concern you? Doesn't that tell you something is up with the system?

                              Back to your point about the JQ being a 'conspiracy'. That's exactly what it is. A real conspiracy. I'm not going to do the whole JQ thing because this comment is already too long but there are plenty of DAR threads talking about this Jewish desire for world domination over the goyim. You should seriously look into it. If you have a strong argument against it make a thread and 'disprove' the JQ and I will respectfully here you out.

                              when the first country to literally hoard this technology and use it on their own population.... was Israel.

                              You'd understand this if you spent some time on the JQ. Jews are willing to use their own people to achieve their ends. The dissident right isn't sure exactly what's going on with the vaccines either. We aren't making the claim that they are 100% fatal instantly and that the elites are trying to kill everyone in Israel. That's a strawman of our position. All we are saying is that we REALLY don't trust the narrative and that the elites under the right conditions would kill a lot of people to get more power or hold onto power.

                              As Markimus has explained in this thread, the anti-vax position requires you to defend so many different positions that come in direct contradiction with each other,

                              So does the pro vax position though. The fatalities are inflated. Covid does not kill that many people and especially not young and middle aged people. Why use a gene therapy, with legal immunity, for a disease that has similar death numbers to the flu? The MRNA test is a lie depending on the cycles used so why trust it? Why are the regular flu deaths so low? Why trust the current anti human regime? Why submit to a control grid in the form of vaccine passports? These are also problems and contradictions with the mainstream narrative. The bottom line is that the people that control central banking and control the world are not good people and they don't deserve to have the power of life and death and freedom of movement over billions of people. This isn't a radical position to take.

                              Edit: We're also long past the idea these vaccines are an experiment.

                              I respectfully disagree and I've provided evidence and expert opinion to the contrary in other comments. You ignored that evidence. One thing that you can't seem to grasp is that science is not above politics. Our academics are some of the most cucked and controlled people in society and they are groomed to be cucks from an early age. Anybody with balls in academics is driven out or has their career ruined (lots of people have spoke out about this for decades). This sets up a really dangerous situation for people that don't want to dig into the details academically.

                              It's delusional to think any government is just going to yank them from the market

                              One of the 'vaccines' was already pulled from the market.

                              when the same vaccines are playing a crucial role in reopening the economy.

                              Are you a real person? Serious question. You use so many media generated buzz words and phrases that I seriously question your background. Who buys into the mainstream on so many talking points? You also speak with the weird air of certainty that I normally only see from people paid off to comment and influence opinion. You frequently appeal to authority as well. Which is a major fallacy and when used repeatedly it just anti debate. You're argument just boils down to 'trust the science bro'. Well I don't because the science is deeply politicized and some would say weaponized.

                              The alternative of going back into lockdown is gone.

                              Another stupid mainstream media neuro linguistic processing tactic. Keep this up and you get a 7 day ban. Just talk like a real human please. Forcing my people into lockdown was an assault on the ability for normal working people to make money and feed themselves and their families. If this keeps up you will have millions of people homeless and starving. Thousands will die from suicide. That's a serious act of aggression from oligarchs and they should deeply consider what they are doing because people are going to push back.

                              People are exhausted and are fighting for this pandemic to end.

                              This framing assumes that people who won't take the vaccine are causing a 'deadly' pandemic to continue and thus killing innocent people. This is a lie. It's gaslighting and it's really a dangerous line of reasoning because the next step is to label millions of peaceful people (of all racial groups and creeds) 'terrorists' simply because they won't take an experimental gene therapy. I can guarantee you that million of americans and Europeans will defend their right to not get a needle in their arm with a experimental gene therapy. This is non negotiable.

                              [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

                              Does this help you understand my position a little better 'radicalcentrist'?

                              Throughout human history, I have never heard of medicine being a tool of population control.

                              What makes China or the USSR so powerful is not because they injected everyone with some secret serum. It was actually because they both have large standing armies who are completely obedient to the state, and are willing to exercise their might on their own population.

                              Meanwhile, the only people even authorized to administer Covid vaccines are doctors. Again, for this conspiracy to really work, you believe all doctors on Earth signed a secret pact with Jews to either poison or mind control every patient who approaches them for help? What would a doctor even get from killing their main (and only) sources of income?

                              [–]Node 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

                              What would a doctor even get from killing their main (and only) sources of income?

                              What doctor in 2021 gets their income from patients?

                              [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                              medicine being a tool of population control.

                              That's because this type of information gets classified as sensitive to national security interests and hidden from the public. We do know that the national socialist government headed by Uncle A studied the poisoning of water and natural resources as a weapon of war. (Most likely to defend against such acts not to use them offensively). All that info fell into US and UK hands after the war. Do you really think the the US, Chinese, Russian and European nations haven't looking into water, and medicines as vectors of attack on a populace??

                              What makes China or the USSR so powerful is not because they injected everyone with some secret serum. It was actually because they both have large standing armies who are completely obedient to the state, and are willing to exercise their might on their own population.

                              I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here.

                              Again, for this conspiracy to really work,

                              Please stop strawmanning.

                              you believe all doctors on Earth signed a secret pact with Jews

                              Historically Jews go into the medical field in droves. A large percentage of doctors in the western world are Jews. We know that doctors collaborated to kill officials in Stalin's government. They were caught and Stalin was going to purge again before he 'mysteriously' died. The medical field is riddled with people that have questionable morals. Just because someone is a doctor doesn't mean they wouldn't do radical things for power and money. I've also stated in some other threads that intelligent people are not immune to propaganda and disinformation. You can trick doctors just like you can trick normal people.

                              doctors on Earth signed a secret pact with Jews to either poison or mind control every patient who approaches them for help?

                              Another strawman. Dissidents don't know the exact plans of elites. We do know that they are constantly fucking over and exploiting the population. We do know that they are willing to kill large numbers of people. We do know they spend millions of dollars to put up monuments about "Maintaining humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.". We do know that jews throughout history are constantly fetishizing white population reduction, fetishizing world control through slavery. We do know that Jews are disproportionately represented in positions of power; coincidentally, all the positions of power you would need to hold to pull of a depopulation or world wide control grid scenario.

                              [–]AngusMacCuckywuck[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (31 children)

                              Poor whites are also more racist while the "high IQ" are usually the biggest woke shitlibs. I guess woke shitlibs are right then because muh IQ?

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                                [–]AngusMacCuckywuck[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                sauce pls

                                [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

                                Vaccines were never meant to be politicized, whereas race does. So shitlibs are correct, but in the same way arguing over an engineer being better at math.

                                Medicine was never a Left or Right-wing position.

                                [–]Yin 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (27 children)

                                This "vax" is for herding retarded sheep. It isn't "medicine".

                                [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

                                Herding them to do what?

                                If there's suppose to be an antennae telling everyone to donate their money to Israel, lets see it.

                                [–]Yin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

                                Herding them into submitting to a global control system. "Covid passports" are the start.

                                [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

                                What if it's possible we end Covid first, and deal with the central banking stuff right after? Has anyone thought of that?

                                It was never an "either or" proposition that all these anti-vax conspiracies love to push. People can eradicate a disease, and still support nationalism. There's no contradiction. The will to live should actually push more people into this direction, instead of dying in a hospital with a tube up your nose because you seriously thought Jews placed all their bets on stopping you with medicine.

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                                  [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                  But poor whites are even more hesitant than poor non-whites.

                                  Much like your last post you make many claims but don't provide even a shred of evidence. Radicalcentrist is at least trying to back his ideas up. Do you have any evidence for this claim?

                                  [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                                  These anti-vax schizo narratives are probably injected into conspiratard communities by jews intentionally to kill off as many working class whites as possible to be honest

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                                  [–]Wrangel 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                  It is pretty much the only part of the pandemic handling that has worked. Japan and Taiwan have shown what a high trust society can do.

                                  I got my Pfizer dose a few weeks ago. It is appalling how low social trust is when people refuse to get vaccinated during a pandemic.

                                  [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                  I'll just lay some basic facts here. More than 95% of the deaths from COVID are to people above 60. If you are below 60 and not very unhealthy(obesity, heart disease, high pressure etc.) your chance of dying from COVID is less that 1/1000. This puts COVID in the category of an acceptable risk.

                                  The average time it takes to make a safe vaccine is 10 years. The COVID vaccine was made in 1.5 years. Till now, phase 3 trials have not been completed on any of the COVID vaccines. In general, whenever more than 25 people are killed due to a medicine, it is immediately recalled. Deaths from the COVID vaccine is over 5000.

                                  Research and development on the Flu vaccine has been going on for 60 years. It still has an efficacy rate of 50%. Yet, the claim on the COVID-19 vaccine is that its 99% effective.

                                  In England majority of the people who have recently caught COVID have been vaccinated. This was on the guardian, hardly a right wing site.

                                  In Israel women have been suffering menstrual problems after taking the vaccine. There are several cases of pregnant women suffering miscarriage after taking it.

                                  The existing vaccines are said to be largely ineffective against the new delta variant. There's already talk of a lambda variant brewing up. This is partly the reason there's never been a successful vaccine for any coronavirus. It undergoes mutation rapidly and new variants pop up every year.

                                  This means that in order to ''triumph'' over COVID, you need a new vaccine every year. These are just simple facts that you can verify with a google search.

                                  I'll leave the rest to your discretion.

                                  [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                  I'll just lay some basic facts here. More than 95% of the deaths from COVID are to people above 60. If you are below 60 and not very unhealthy(obesity, heart disease, high pressure etc.) your chance of dying from COVID is less that 1/1000. This puts COVID in the category of an acceptable risk.

                                  There's absolutely no reason that Covid should have ever been an "acceptable risk". Back when the virus was first found in China in late 2019, every government around the world should have suspended air travel until China admitted they had the situation under control. Millions of lives would have been saved, and no country would have been forced under lockdown except for China.

                                  That's why I don't understand the anti-vax movement. Nobody asked for Covid. I would rather live in a world where the virus never existed. But because so many people fell for the "lol it's just a flu bro", they literally destroyed the world with their ignorance. It should be seen as a miracle of science that we even have a working vaccine right now, because imagine if Covid was actually killing off the entire world much faster? It would have turned into a civil war if the virus deniers continued to spread their false information.

                                  So don't take the " 1/1000" number as a sign we should have done nothing. What happens next time when there is a virus that has a 100% kill rate but we still have anti-maskers going around spitting in people's faces? The world as we know it would have been over.

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                                    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                    OP should provide evidence that Jews are behind the vaccine but simply disregarding OP (and encouraging other to disregard or disengage) because he used the phrase 'jew juice' is tone policing. Please be mindful that excessive tone policing is against our rules.

                                    A better response from you would be to provide evidence that indeed Jews are not behind the development of the experimental MRNA gene therapy. I think you might find that difficult to do though.