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[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Just throwing this out there, what if the first part was real, and the second part is not?

I was honestly extremely convinced by the first video, and I watched it basically expecting it to be a hoax. I haven't delved too much in to the second one though.

Even if it is a hoax and a false flag, instead of real and a false flag, does that really change anything? Like if you knew it was 100% a hoax, what does that get you over knowing it's a false flag that was real and served the same purpose anyway?

I think the false flag aspect of it is much more relevant than the hoax/not hoax aspect of it, tbh. And I think over-focusing on the hoax aspect minimizes the very valid false flag aspect that is being used to push legislation and put people in jail right now.

Even if it was real, the government should not be responding the way it is. I think that should be the focal point of the conversation. Because digging in to this hoax/not-hoax stuff gets in to a lot of minutiae and opinions about "what's normal" and what isn't, and so on, which is interesting, but not as worthwhile as the very obviously real reaction that the government and populace is having from this event.

I'm not saying don't dig of course, I'm just saying that my sense of priorities has me leaning towards the discussion that is indisputably real, rather than bickering over hoax/not-hoax based on a lot of assumptions. Just as a matter of efficiency, because the end result of those two discussion is the same imo (government overreach is out of control) but the hoax/not-hoax angle adds a bunch of uncertainty in to a conversation where bad things are almost certainly happening...

Anyway, not that you asked or wanted it, but there's my opinion.

That said, if you have a silver bullet that this is a hoax, then by all means. But I don't regard this video as a silver bullet. It's weird, but I wouldn't say proof of a hoax

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, I wouldn't doubt that they conduct false flags and PSYOP hoaxes, simultaneously. However, it is a lot easier for them to fake shootings based on the perception management method. As of right now in the news, they're doigng that. So, many conflicting timelines and stories. So, much blame on both sides, it's almsot theatrical.

The first shooting looks real but some parts like the girl getting shot on the side walk, which originally. I thought was real do not jive with a headshot. I thought it had to be real, but something is off. Her arm explodes and this red bag is shown, which the gun wasn't even pointed at. When the shotoer gets into the car, he utters "well that didn't go as planned."

Yes, some of her hair flies off but there is no gore or blood even though she gets shot point blank in the head. Also, the shooters behavior is very odd when driving. Such as the color coded people. First off, he pulls over and stops waits and looks over at a man walking wearing red. Then he leaves. Why did he pull ove and wait? Then he proceeds and heads to mosque, there is another fully clothed person wearing all red that passes the place he needs to go, he turns into ally way and proceeds down it, then turning around and heading back. A man is there off to the left, who looks to be directing him.

And regarding the first video, I was extremely convinced at first. But notice EVERYONE in the mosque when he goes in is just laying by the two exists. their backs facing the shooter. There's also a whisper when he hads back into the hall, "which in after effects with manipualted EQ, sounds like "watch your back." It appears someone said this laying on the ground, someone other than the shooter. You do not see any initial blood or bullets hitting any objects or walls splitting them apart until after he comes back with a 2nd gun.

YES, it changes a lot. If it's a hoax, nobody dies and in law this is legal. It is merely propaganda. A false flag people die, and many lawsuits will be filed, real emotion will be displayed.

Watching one witness talk, the man lying under the chair in the mosque, who didn't get shot, the shooter just never amied at him once, he was already laying down as the shooter walked down the hall.

He moved a little bit as he came back with the 2nd gun. His interview is not believable to me, and seeing how fake the aftermath of 2nd mosque shooting was, usually when one thing is fake, the entire thing is fake.

Boston bombing was a PSYOP hoax, with a smoke bomb. Nobody died and nobody got hurt, yet it looks very real and they used realistic looking moulage. There were many smoking guns in that fake attack because civilians captured photos and video in HD. This one not so much and it was probably intentional.


Early on it was reported that this was a “coordinated” attack with multiple suspects in custody. Now it’s just one guy doing all the shooting, which doesn’t really require any coordination, does it?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2FLz70W0AEly7g.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2FLz70WwAAbUt0.jpg

And on this particular day, in “a country so peaceful that police officers rarely carry guns,” we’re to believe there was a mass shooting AND a bunch of other suspicious/armed people in the vicinity who had nothing to do with it? Sounds like a typical last-minute narrative shift.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2Lsnt1WsAA0Nhu.jpg


And we were told “four people have so far been arrested, but police believe there may be other offenders involved.” And now we have just one person charged and no other suspects being pursued. How’s that work? I don’t know. And do these people look like they came from a prayer service at a mosque?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2LydMHXgAA7r5g.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2L0FXBWoAAs_-b.jpg

And: “...police had found two improvised explosive devices in one car, a clarification from an earlier statement that there were devices in multiple vehicles.” Clearly, this was originally a multiple-perpetrator scenario.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2L5a-mWwAAVkRb.jpg

I honestly think it's real, at least the first shooting until otherwise but I'm not discounting a well coordinated hoax. I'll continue to research because unlike US psyops, interrnational mass shootings are usually real.


Also, odd.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2McVw_X0AE--4a.jpg

Parkland students visited special effects and movie prop company Weta Workshop during their “field trip” in July 2018.

Some of the same students who were in the troup acting club at Parkland which specialized in acting and special effects including moulage.


Additional links and material:

Extensive Post Reveals Drills, Anomalies and Child Actors Involved With Parkland School Shooting in Florida on February 14, 2018

https://steemit.com/news/@clarityofsignal/extensive-post-reveals-anomalies-and-child-actors-involved-with-parkland-school-shooting-in-florida-on-february-14-2018

Reassessment of Students - Hopeful Actors, Reporters, FilmMakers Placed on Camera by Mainstream Media For Antigun Campaign Messages After Parkland Shooting Event

https://steemit.com/news/@clarityofsignal/2gqwc4-reassessment-of-students-hopeful-actors-reporters-filmmakers-placed-on-camera-by-mainstream-media-for-antigun-campaign-messages

More Parkland Students Rolled Out By The Mainstream Media Exposed As Actors/School TV Personalities Via Their Own Uploaded Posts And You Tube Channels

https://steemit.com/news/@clarityofsignal/more-parkland-students-rolled-out-by-the-mainstream-media-exposed-as-actors-school-tv-personalities-via-their-own-uploaded-posts


[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Early on it was reported that this was a “coordinated” attack with multiple suspects in custody. Now it’s just one guy doing all the shooting, which doesn’t really require any coordination, does it?

This is the most common feature of fake flags that I've noticed. The cops on the ground level do their job and arrest the conspirators, and the bosses are in on it.
This happened with the Israeli attention after 9/11, as well.

Jesus, can you send me a link to the Boston bombing investigation video? Thanks.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's not many Boston Bombing Videos left unfortunately. Most have been scrubbed. I have hundreds saved locally, that I have yet to go through. I'll try to find some.