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[–]no_u 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

False

The US GOVERNMENT deported migrants in much higher numbers ALL years during Biden's presidency than they did years of the Trump admin. Look it up.

[–]yellowsnow2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

There is no point in looking at "deportation" numbers. There were 2.47 million boarder "encounters" in 2023. Those that the Biden admin processed in were given a court date for the time of the UN agenda 2030 event, which was scheduled shortly after the UN agenda 21 (covid) event didn't give the results they wanted..

Encounters at the Southwest border (SWB) in FY2023 increased over 40% since FY2021, 4% compared to FY2022, and more than 100% compared to FY2019, making last fiscal year the worst on record under the Biden administration. https://homeland.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/September-Startling-Stats.pdf

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

There is no point in looking at "deportation" numbers.

False - because we're discussing the history of deportations per president, showing that there was a manufactured crisis under Trump that resulted in inviting more migrants who thought they'd not be deported by Trump's admin (and most weren't), while they played with different detentions for children and adults, splitting up families, and failing to do their work. Under Biden, there have been efforts to improve border security and deportations, far above those of Trump, which would reduce migrant numbers. Without those efforts, the number of extra migrants continue as a result of Lax Trump policy.

[–]yellowsnow2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

while they played with different detentions for children and adults, splitting up families, and failing to do their work

If you committed a crime and were taken to jail, would your children go to jail with you? To expect every law breaker to have his children in the cell with him is ridiculous propaganda. As president, Trump had a duty to follow the existing law of Operation Streamline (zero tolerance), which had been in place since 2005. Not surprisingly, the corporate media told many lies surrounding this subject.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Streamline

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Trump's TEAM created immigration problems that were unnecessary and were ONLY for giving dumbasses the impression that he was doing something about immigration. Deportations dropped during that presidency, human rights abuses increased, and that stupid fucking idea of a wall that was partialy built has been the easiest wall in the history of border walls for ANYONE to climb over or cut through. His team FUCKED UP border security in ways no other president has ever done, and with fewer deportations. It's insane that anyone would believe Trump has any credibility on ANYTHING.

[–]yellowsnow2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I know what you are saying is a lie. I have seen the wall he was building and the design reasoning concerning climbing it or cutting through it. I know it was not a cheap or poorly thought out design... I know he ran on building the wall his first term so could not have caused the problem before ever being president. You guys depend on people not comprehending a timeline and being uninformed enough to believe the lamest lie. It's cute. You mental midgets make me want to bend down and pat you on the top of your little head.

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

If you know anything about the wall that was built, you'll know that your other points here are part of a series of talking points by brainwashed cult that's plagued the US for far too long. Trump's TEAM created problems in order to exploit them for political points with morons who do NOT understand the timeline for deportations &c. That TEAM also stopped bills from passing congress that provided billions for border protection, claiming they needed much more (which was easy to request AGAIN in a subsequent bill, but no, they had to play politics). They helped CREATE a migrant crisis because migrants knew how easy it was to get into the US, thanks to these clowns.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Trump built a wall. Biden opened the door. You claim that there was a bigger immigration problem under Trump because in your mind there should be open border with no wall. It's just the opposite, an immigration problem is that which we see today, thousands of people flocking i to the country unregistered because Biden lets them. The migrant crisis we see today if because the migrants knew Biden was a soft touch and his presidency stopped the wall on DAY ONE.

[–]no_u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You should know better than this. I've shown you the statistics several times. Look at my comment history. No president in the past 5+ decades has reduced deportations in their term more than Trump. How many times do you want to see the deportation stats? (edit - here) That CREATED additional migrants, encouraging them to enter the US.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

You speak of deportations but the number of migrants applying for permanent residency remains almost unchanged since 1989, around 800k-1m average, no change under Trump. But the policy was different.

The problem with your statistics is it is government data, which doesn't include estimates for all those who slop under the fence, whoch is what they do without border control.