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[–]AXXA 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I think that confirms that you are right and my original assumption was wrong. The automod shadow bans users. This is troublesome because if nothing else it breaks intended transparency of public logs of bans, which is part of Saidit's core mission. I think /u/magnora7 is not going to like that.

[–]magnora7 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ok thanks to everyone for bringing this to my attention, I will talk to the mods and try to understand exactly what their automoderator is doing before making any changes. If it's breaking saidit rules they can leave /all, or adjust it to be within saidit rules. I will have to evaluate the situation and talk with the mods which will take a few days.

[–]Dragonerne[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I found out what prompted the moderator to shadow ban me from their sub.
https://saidit.net/s/censorship/comments/b04d/wayofthebern_using_reddit_shadow_banning_on_saidit/12q2w

[–]Dragonerne[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

3 days ago penelopepnortney
edited wiki page (Updated AutoModerator configuration: Dragonerne put under temp moderation)

3 days ago their moderator put me on their shadow ban list. This was after this exchange:
Moderator:

We get that you hate Jews, it's hard not to since that sentiment seems to permeate most of your comments regardless of what's under discussion. It's really pretty cringy, frankly.

Me:

You can call it cringy, but you can't call me a liar.

Moderator:

As several people have pointed out already, you attribute to one group what applies to all groups as no group is a monolith and all have both good and bad actors. Your fixation on one particular group for these evils at the very least makes you lack credibility, it's the typical find a scapegoat to blame for all our ills based on who people are rather than what they do as individuals, which just gives the perpetrators outside that group a free pass.

Me:

Watch this short video to understand the stupidity of your position. https://files.catbox.moe/xw7xgk.mp4 MP4

I judge people based on their actions, not who they are. However the actions of people in their group influences how I view others in that group, naturally. This is called Bayesian reasoning. You have a lot of variability within a group, so judging an individual solely based on the group average would be incorrect, but likewise treating everyone as if they didn't belong to groups would also be incorrect. If tomorrow, the jews stopped censoring people on facebook, reddit, youtube, etc. then a lot of my criticism of them would disappear BECAUSE of their actions, but they don't. They keep censoring us. They keep exploiting people. It is their actions I judge them by.

which just gives the perpetrators outside that group a free pass.

Definitely not. Do you think I ignore Ron DeSantis who signed a bill in Israel to ban free speech in Florida last month, just because he isn't jewish? Do you really think so? I hope you realize how that's not the case. Do you think I ignore non-jews who benefit from this judeo-capitalist system exploiting the workers? Of course I don't.

All that said. I can recommend the video I shared with the moderator. It perfectly points out the stupidity of their position.

So it now becomes clear when the shadow banning happened and why. The moderator got butt hurt and thinks it is reddit where you just ban people you disagree with if they trigger you for whatever reason.

[–]Dragonerne[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But even if your assumption was correct, it still wouldn't be "off topic" to say that Larry Fink, the ceo of BlackRock, is a jew when talking about Larry Fink or BlackRock. It is factual and it is relevant to the topic, hence "on topic".

If 90% of the things they post about is related to jews, then that is relevant to those topics to point out. This wouldn't happen by coincidence. Jews are a small 2% minority so we would expect their representation in problematic issues to be 2%, once every 50 post

[–]AXXA 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I really respect the strong argument you present, but I'm sorry, I disagree. It's getting late for me. Maybe we can discuss this another time. My hope is that you get an accommodation for the issue that you raised with WOTB. Have a great night.

[–]Dragonerne[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Goodnight to you