WayOfTheBern using reddit shadow banning on saidit

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[–]AXXA 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

None of that changes the fact the they have a right to limit the topic of the sub. They're not acting with bias. They simply don't want to discuss that aspect in either direction.

[–]Dragonerne[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

It is against saidit moderator rules unless they make it explicit.
If they want to ban good faith debaters then they have to remove themselves from s/all or change their sidebar

[–]AXXA 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You're not banned from the sub. The fact that the removals are done by automod indicates the comments are off topic. I just searched the mod rules and I couldn't find anything about having to be explicit about what's off topic. I do still feel that you have a point that it would be nice if they were. But /u/magnora7 might consider that to be micromanaging.

[–]Dragonerne[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The fact that the removals are done by automod indicates the comments are off topic.

Naming the jew is "off topic" when talking about a jew?

The saidit rules say:

Mods must not remove user comments and posts that are on-topic and made in good faith UNLESS one of these conditions are met:

So they are not allowed to just shadow ban all comments naming the jew

[–]Alphix 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Clearly you are in the right.

[–]LarrySwinger2 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That's different from targeting users with automoderator. If someone breaks the rules, first you warn them, then you ban them in a transparent way.

[–]AXXA 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I had assumed that automod was targeting a topic and not an user, but we actually don't know that one way or the other. You could ask the sub moderators for that information.

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Just look at the logs. It seems to remove all of Dragoerne's posts. Although verification is indeed important.

[–]AXXA 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, you changed my mind. I think you're probably right. And I think that you're right in your original point that better communication is needed. The sub mods should be a part of this discussion.

[–]Alphix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The target is Dragonerne himself.