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    It seems we agree that we are fed propaganda by those who control government agencies.

    What we don't agree on is the source of the propaganda. Follow the money and you'll see that the 1% and big corporations want to extend COVID19, which kills small businesses, competition, and the quality of life for the 99%. Thus this 1% is pouring money into propaganda for you to read and thus distrust science and facts, vaccines &c. This is the vulgar government overreach to which you refer.

    The vaccines help with the impact of COVID19, which is not a flu or a cold.

    When 9/11 happened, I was in Europe, seeing it on a small TV in a bar, and then listening to comments on the subway, referring to the way in which the US was responsible for these enemies abroad, because of the military industrial complex and US agression in other countries for over a century. I remember someone looking at me and telling his friend to shut up about 9/11 because I looked American (which I am). Nonetheless, there were many who felt sorry for the Americans who lost their lives. That changed with the US invaded Iraq, and the US was understood again as the usual aggressor in geopolitical attacks, directly or by proxy. Israel, Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld and their colleagues arranged for a massive profit-making military operation that would benefit a few people, at the expense of the 99% and numerous others overseas, helping destabilize the middle east. In short: yes, vulgar government overreach, the likes of which are in the anti-science and anti-facts propaganda fed to us by Republican supporters.

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      You think covid is Ebola

      Nope - I didn't say that

      and worth shutting down society

      Nope - I didn't say that

      and removing personal autonomy.

      Nope - I didn't say that - and it's not happening with a tiny piece of cloth

      The giant corporations you rightly refer to somehow don’t include Big Pharma.

      I didn't say that. They certainly include Big Pharma and Big Healthcare, which are also ruining the lives of the 99% (though much broader programs than with a vaccine that only earns a few $ billion, at best, for one or two companies. Big Healtcare wants you to get COVID19.

      You trust them with their experiment even with their endless track records of public harm?

      Nope - I didn't say that

      You bought what was sold with fear and censorship and now you believe this utter bullshit that if everyone gets polluted by this Pharma experiment the overreach will stop.

      Nope - unrelated to me - nor is that the main problem (follow the money)

      You are being conditioned for your future of Chinese style social credit and your partisan delusions cause you to accept the degradation as long as the correct partisan tells you it is alright.

      Nope - unrelated to me or my comments, which are mainly about the abuses of right-wing propaganda, which is indeed much like Chinese style social credit systems for the 99%

      Covid is not Ebola.

      True

      Masks do nothing to stop transmission of virus.

      False

      The experimental treatments are not “vaccines” and they do not stop spread.

      Experimental treatments?

      I think there's no middle-ground in the discussion here.

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        Saidit 101: if someone disagrees with you, he must be a paid shill.

        Pathetic

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          Again - I did indeed thoughtfully address your questions (partially because I am familiar with your username, but I won't make that mistake again)

          Your accusation that I am merely repeating a partisan script, or that I am paid to do so, and that I am 'pathetic', obviously ends the discussion.