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    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

    That's basically it, in a nut case shell. I have watched these sort of coverups in the US for 15 years and came to the conclusion about 10 years ago that it's pointless to try and fight the system over there. 911, the banker bailouts, hell they even still pick apart the JFK murder around here and it's all a total waste of time. That mel gibson movie "Conspiracy Theory" is the template of life for many I believe.

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      [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

      The winner is who sits in the white house next year, that's all that matters. Look at the life of Julius Caesar. He began the transformation of Rome from a democratic nation to a dictatorship. he was a dictator, but he never had full power. Neither did his adopted son Augustus, both had great power but still had to maintain the sham of democracy. It wasn't until later that Roman Emperors took full power and became true dictators.

      What I see in america today is what happened in Rome 2000 years ago, plebeians protesting that democracy is being undermined, blah blah blah. But history, present and future is not influenced by the bleating of sheep. If the election was stolen, which it seems it was, so what? That's life in the big game and Trump knows that. he'll back quietly down as many before him. he won't go against the true masters of the nation. He'll be happy with the influence his tenure has given him, he'll be rewarded by the huge military and pharmaceuticals etc for looking after their interests while he sat at the top.

      It was never about "bringing jobs back to america", that was just election jibberish to get the masses to vote him into power. All politicians lie, all the time, and El-Trumpo is no different.

      [–]FrenchiePup 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

      Caesar was made dictator by the senate. What he did was turn the democracy into an empire because it was the overall popular desire in Rome after it was made obvious that democracy had failed.

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      Yes, but he did march an army into Rome, unprecedented. I think the senate had no choice. Political expediency at the time. I wonder if all democracies will turn into dictatorships in time?

      [–]oneinchterror 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      I wonder if all democracies will turn into dictatorships in time?

      Yes. Democracy is an inherently unstable system. It never lasts.

      [–]FrenchiePup 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      They named him dictator before he marched into Rome.

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      Correct, but I bet they hoped his rival consul, Pompeius Magnus, would return with reinforcements and oust him.

      [–]FrenchiePup 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Caesar was too popular.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      just like trump.

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        Yes I understand, but this isn't a process that goes 2 steps back and one step forward, it's 2 steps forward and one back. most of the constitutional rights afforded americans have been stripped by the patriot and other acts, stealing an election would be an easy matter, no one will really kick up a fuss, even trump isn't kicking up a fuss. Now he's pleading to the courts to "do the right thing"

        No I see the whole thing as a sitcom, they are all actors, trump might even have known about this before the election. The purpose is clear, keep the society divided and on the edge of it's seats 24/7 so they have no chance in mobilizing 'en-mass' to resist a total government takeover of their lives and wealth. The government doesn't care about a few million unemployed useless eaters, it's the middleclass, the minor wealthy they fear. These have to be neutralized and their wealth stolen. Which they are, and which is.

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        and it is interesting that caesar gained by power by supporting the proletariot when the roman senators were greedy and corrupt and taxed them too high. Democracy was a sham too, just different people in charge. The emperor had power by having the support of the military.