Openly racist explanation of different peoples reaction to pain in an American medical textbook.

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    [–]FlippyKing 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    piggy backing on your comment, cultural differences with regard to responses to pain are real. A doctor, especially today, does not know their patient so well that they can assess the pain from the patient's expression or description of that pain. They need such generalizations based on observation in order at least start treating the specific patient as they get to know them-- if that is possible any more. If anything, they've gotten better and collecting good data on this, not worse. This isn't a bunch of w.a.s.p.-y doctors chatting about patients in the country club after golf. The biggest problem is probably people think it is wrong to express pain, not the drama queens.

    [–]Chipit[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    "They believe in prayer and laying on of hands to heal pain and believe that relief is proportional to faith"

    How can anyone write this and not get fired? All black people? It's calling them ignorant Christers who believe in the Invisible Sky Wizard. How about if it said they like watermelon and fried chicken? It's the same, ugly racist nonsense.

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      [–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      See? Same stereotyping as this textbook.

      Race doesn't exist. The SJW left has told us this many, many times.

      [–]FlippyKing 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      You know what? I stand corrected. I glanced at two of the items, and just figured I knew what the rest said because I'm familiar these sorts of things. There are certain cultural considerations with regard to prescriptions that seemed racist to me but it is about the tendency to eat certain food and for example a medicine that contains a bit of sodium was considered not best for some groups if an alternative is available. But that page is pretty ridiculous.

      However, behind the racism what I see is something different. It is more about the idea that there is something "cultural" as in not enlightened about enduring pain. Maybe I'm reading into it too much. But after I see the racism, I see the book casting like side-eye at people who will endure pain rather than ask for drugs.

      [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      You might not like it but one of the reasons black people have worse survival rates for cancer is that they go to church to pray the cancer away and put their heads in the sand over treatment.

      What's the group with the lowest vaccine uptake at the moment?

      Same problem.

      If you can't talk about the problem you can't deal with it and then you get more bock people dying, which is really racist and actually matters a bit more than hurt feelings.

      Of course it's not all black people, you know this. This stuff is from ethnographic research not, it's about cultural trends which are often not particularly flattering for any group.

      [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Wow, that first paragraph is racist, derogatory nonsense. Prove it with facts. But of course, you can't. Because it's stereotyping.

      [–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

      Seriously? Did you even read the text? It's this close to getting out the calipers and measuring their skull dimensions. The one for blacks is racist as fuck. How do you not see this?

      [–]insta 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

      It seems to be more inaccurate or outdated than anything (at least from my experience as a healthcare worker). The concept of different groups having different healthcare needs is widely accepted.

      [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      Oh, so open racism is widely accepted where you work. Aren't you a wonder.

      [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      If you give everyone the same treatment some groups will have significantly worse results.

      People who really care about racism will try to work out why that is and improve understanding.

      [–]insta 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      It's more akin to profiling than actual racism. Again, different people have different health needs.

      You wouldn't ask a 20-something year old the same question in the same order as you would a 60-something year old. You just don't. It's a waste of time and your virtue signaling could lead to worse health outcomes for the patient. The same applies to different demographics as well.

      Your virtue signaling in these scenarios could literally cost someone their life. If you come into the ER with chest pain and having shortness of breath you're more often than not experiencing an overdose, the same is not said about a 60-year old obese man. It's just stupid to operate in this world where everyone are individual actors completely unlike other people.

      [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Age isn't the same as the racist stereotyping this book is engaging in.

      [–]insta 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Age profiling and race profiling really aren't as different as you want them to be. You just view one as more socially accepted than the other.

      [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Age is a biological reality. Race is not.

      [–]insta 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      You don't believe race is biological? Dude that's flat out science denial.