Ottawa Police Chief: Protesters Will Be Hunted Down and Punished Even If They ‘Retreat And Go Home’

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[–]StillLessons[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

From the truckers' point of view, it seems time to move to a strategy of selective denial of service. For example, were I a trucker in Canada, I would no longer accept any job delivering anything at all to Ottawa. In the US, ditto for DC. It's easier to deny protesters a space than it is to force them to serve that space. If the truckers deny the laptop class the logistics which they depend upon to survive, things may get interesting quite quickly. This is not an "easy" solution, as violence is assured as the laptop class works to force compliance, but they're doing that already at this point, so what's to lose?

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Insightful. Yes, that works. Also, in Québec city, the truckers have a different method: they don't stop. They honk, and they drive around the parliament building, and they don't stop. So they aren't "blocking traffic" but I'll bet they're still annoying as fuck.

[–]StillLessons[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

That occurred to me as well. While the method chosen in Ottawa (move in and stay put until the state was forced to show its colors) had its advantages, another approach might have been to make it more fluid from the beginning. Rather than go for long occupation, move in for a week (long enough to gain plenty of attention), then go somewhere else (Toronto, maybe), then keep doing this. Come back and get Ottawa again at a future point, again for a limited time. A moving target is tricky.

It sounds like this is similar to the thinking of the Quebec city protest. Good for them!

Fascism at the level the WEF are attempting it completely fails to account for human creativity, as the fascists themselve completely lack creativity.

All is not lost.

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They're doing COMMUNISM though, not fascism. The two are antithetical to each other.

[–]StillLessons[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We're going to disagree on this one. I see privately-owned corporations and the government enacting coordinated policies together. While there are elements of communism here (CBC is outright state-owned and CTV and others are effectively state owned), the majority of what the WEF are after seems to have nothing to do with explicit state ownership of production. The effects are the same (Google, for example works as an agent of the state), but the formal registration of the ownership structure not being the Canadian government (or US, or UK, or French, etc) doesn't look like Communism to me. Even the Chinese (whose "characteristics" this is all modeled on) had to move away from technical "communism" since the 80s to maintain control.

I also don't see them as antithetical to each other; rather they represent two different flavors of oligarchic tyranny. In communism, the oligarchy is defined as the controlling party (the CCP, for example); in fascism, the oligarchy is defined as the ownership class. In both cases, it looks to me as ~10% of the population controlling and dictating to the other 90%. Antithetical to both systems is the concept of individual liberty, autonomy, and genuine political representation. In both of these systems, the majority is subject to the power of the oligarchy. In a legitimate representative system, the oligarchy is subject to the will of the majority, which they must represent in their decisions. We have obviously moved out of that paradigm.

Both communism and fascism are unacceptable systems. I'm with you in opposing it absolutely, however we may quibble about the details of the label.