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[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The "loaned" money was created out of thin air.

Most money is. An "IOU" has been a valid form of payment for hundreds of years.

banks can write down/off their losses, or give themselves a loan and go bankrupt

You're saying it like the Banks would comply without a fight. lol

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The banks would need to be forced into a jubilee. Accounting magic.

The "loaned" money was created out of thin air.

The debt can be erased into thin air in the same way, and the banks can write down/off their losses, or give themselves a loan and go bankrupt (which 99.9% of the public is comfortable with).

I'm sure they'd go with the first option.

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

According to the media. ‾_(ツ)_/‾

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Your statement is correct. Although it is impossible (literally) for everyone to be debt-free in the current economic/monetary structure.

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't necessarily disagree, although we may disagree on the extent.

Situational/social pressures make people act contrary to their personal values. The corporate structure forces people to harm others, or find work at another corporate plantation if they take issue with .

The farmer runs his own operation, so he has the personal flexibility to act morally. Similar tendencies apply to those who are fortunate enough to work for corporate plantations with more ethical corporate cultures.

In spite of this, a small number of sociopaths/psychopaths can quickly destroy morality within the corporate structure.

This outcome appears to have been designed-in to corporate legal structure, as senior leadership is legally required to maximize profit.

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[–]mikipika 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. You prove my point >hen money is created by a private bank (not the govt) the interest is not created. The loan and interest is still owed to the private bank, so there is always more debt in the economy than money. ALWAYS. This idea that you HAVE to be in debt is fallacy. The Banksters want you to think that just like Pepsi wants you to believe that tap water is not as good as bottled water. It's all about getting you to give them your money.

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[–]mikipika 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Confused. tom_ bombadil are you also la_cues?

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[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also, things weren't as bad for the locals as the media reported.

A lot of people left Venezuela for food reasons. Venezuela had been on the decline for a long time. Nobody cared until food issues started.

"To end an empire you don't need swords. You only need to remove their bread and the head will follow."

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[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

if we can't trust the rich with wealth, we need a council of councils to Democratize it. And the opposition will be executed.

A dragon in a mountain is left alone until it's discovered.

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[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's predicated on the idea that individuals act solely out of greed and are self interested.

Because many people are. Most of them put themselves into positions of power. From the asshole manager at a Target who loves his job bossing people around to the politician dancing with a nuclear football.

and are typically kind to strangers.

Only to the extent society allows them to be. External factors force even the kindest of people into doing horrible things to others for self-preservation.

For many of us a roof over our heads, food, and water, and we'd be alright. That limitation is fine when you have a farm away from town. Not when you're stuck in a city where everything costs money.

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[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In the current system having no debt means others have more debt.

An oversimplification I like to use: If I don't owe you money, it's because you owe me money, and I'm being polite by not asking for it right now.

student loan forgiveness. It's currently approaching the level of housing debt in scale.

Housing bubble popped. If the same happens to student loan debt it's going to be real bad because now the rich know what to expect.

That aside... how would the government even go about making it go away completely?

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[–]x0x7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, and it was posted the same day I posted it. Who was PM then? And I don't care if it's Bibi, like at all.

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I don't really understand the question.

In the current system having no debt means others have more debt.

When money is created by a private bank (not the govt) the interest is not created.
The loan and interest is still owed to the private bank, so there is always more debt in the economy than money. ALWAYS.

So, for every individual with money and no debt they are multiple people with some money but much more debt.

I'm not sure that I'm answering your question, but it's a macro view of the debt-money system.

One last historical detail.

A reasonably simple solution to the excess debt problem existed in ancient (biblical) times. Every 7 years was a jubilee, which was unconditional forgiveness of individual debts.

The exception was business debts weren't forgiven, which makes economic sense and isn't a moral issue.

*It's crucial that a jubilee (it similar) has no strings attached.
For example: *"come in for your free Corona virus vaccination and we'll write off your debt..."

The debt-slavers cannot be trusted.

Also, they conjured the money and debt out of thin air, so in a very real sense you should owe them nothing.
This is a fact.

The easiest way (IMO) to implement a jubilee would be student loan forgiveness. It's currently approaching the level of housing debt in scale.

Many people have quit paying them already, so it's only a matter of time before something significant happens.

The economy would see a massive boost in days, or weeks.

I doubt this will occur without some catastrophic development, because recent generations have been deliberately pushed into debt bondage.

Student loan debt is an obvious example of the massive odious debt of the many, compared to the relative security of the few (1%), and inconceivable wealth of the 0.01%.

The 1% are very comfortable, but they still work indirectly for the international 0.01% (oligarchs).

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[–]mikipika 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You are awesome. Thank you!

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[–]mikipika 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How did you get the idea that having no debt is hoarded wealth? In my reality, having no debt means having no debt slaves to the 1%.

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

The economics of the pre capitalist system has destroyed the local economies.

Also, things weren't as bad for the locals as the media reported.

Fake news is everywhere. Why should we believe them?

The Corporate US military is still eager to get back there to steal their resources.

The very same interests that pay to propagandize the American people (and everyone else).

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

A growing economy is not universally positive.

In terms of labor to production, it's just not true

Name a mother, child or grandparent that concerns themselves with "labor to production".

This is a metric of greed, and exploitation. If forces people away from their families.

Many people long for the good old days when parents weren't both forced into the work force by those who were concerned with "labor to production". Or other sociopathic goals.

Economics only accounts for financial transactions.

Every other human factor is considered an "externallity" and is ignored.

Modern economics is nonsense in practice. The theories don't work on real life applications.

It's predicated on the idea that individuals act solely out of greed and are self interested.
It's ludicrous.
People care about each other, and are typically kind to strangers.

Every real life circumstance is considered a "special case", and the economic "rules" don't apply.

This is because the "approved" theories are only supported by the academic funders, donators, and award manufacturers; who have a strong economic interest in projecting a certain world view to the public.

It's essentially propaganda.

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[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The devil can't help but brag and that's usually his downfall. It's a tribe straight from hell and to hell it goes back.

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[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

But, weren't they wuz kengs an sheet?!

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[–]dark_devil_dd 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Same thing happened in Venezuela, they decided to "redistribute" land, and it made to less productive organization, many people of which didn't have the know how to be as productive as the people who did it before.

In that case wasn't so much white, it was a perceived difference in identity (landowners). Identity politics compete with merit/outcome politics, and end up not getting good outcomes, and then they get surprised pikachu faces when people start starving.

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[–]h5e4ah45erth 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Local economies prosper

Depends what you mean "prosper". In terms of labor to production, it's just not true, societies with higher ratios of debt (or another way to put it, more capital per risk) generally grow faster, and the result of that growth is more production per unit of labor. Because what debt represents it the willingness for those with wealth to lend it to risky projects. If you have no debt, what you really have is a wealth-hoarded society. Maybe it can exist at small scales, when wealth is scarce in the first place, but in the long term, hoarded wealth is wealth not invested.

Hence the inevitable transition of anarchist to "tankie": if we can't trust the rich with wealth, we need a council of councils to Democratize it. And the opposition will be executed.

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[–]la_cues 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

WOW Thank you, much appreciated.

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[–]Zahn 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Literally Wakanda.

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[–]Enza 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's a lot of fishy stuff about WW2 and the Holocaust, just like there's a lot of fishy stuff with 9/11.

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[–]Hellothereawesome 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

If they hadn't been invaded 20 times over the last couple of centuries they'd be doing just fine.

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[–]sproketboy 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I just want to point out that this has nothing to do with "melanin".

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

David Graeber is a good source for what you're looking for.

Unwelcomed Guests has a free audiobook of Debt: The first 5000 years.

Well worth listening to.

Graeber first encountered anarchist society in rural Madagascar while researching as an anthropologist.

IIRC: The locals pretended to have a government to keep up appearances, and fooled him for about two years, when he figured it out on his own.

https://anarchyinaction.org/index.php?title=Highland_Madagascar

Also, this topic is touched on in a couple different episodes here.

http://www.unwelcomeguests.net/Episode_Index

I highly recommend this site. You will learn more than you expect to.

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[–]la_cues 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are you saying small towns regress back to local supply-chains and small-scale economies?

I would assume the market is essentially a truly free (of regulation) market. No govt imposed restrictions. If you have any more information I would be grateful. I'm very interested in the ramifications of situations like this.

I understand that in many cases it devolves into militia/mafia controlled, but there's gotta be success stories before then!

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Says the guys owning the press.

Local economies prosper in these conditions, and the Banksters don't get their loan payments.

Countries with low GDP often have decent living standards, but they don't have economies that depends upon financial transactions.
Credit economies existed before money economies. The barter theory is a myth.

Poverty rates don't apply in the same way in these economies, because they are "poor" based on income in $$$'s. Lack of $$$ does not equate to starvation, etc.

Most places are better off without the Banksters noticing them.

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I like it when I read comments like this.

Certain interest groups invest so much time, effort, and resources into controlling the minds of the public.

A great example if this is the number of Holocaust museums that have been built in the US.

It didn't happen here and the Jewish community is integrated into US society.

So why do virtually all school children need to go on Holocaust museum tours?

Why are people viscously attacked for asking simple questions?

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[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wouldn't get your fruits in a jack about it. TyrdBombadil is pushing socialism-communism and that doesn't add up to being alt right.

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[–]fruitjack 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

well it didn't take long for the alt-reichers to start denying the holocaust. oh, i'm sorry, they're "not" "denying" the holocaust, they're just "denying" how it "happened" oh lordie

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's funny, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was also true.

Have you ever looked into the facts behind the camps? I know of some reasonably good sources of historical info.

I'm not suggesting in any way that they weren't atrocities.

However, I don't think that it was physically possible for it to have occurred as taught in school.

Edit: For example, the six million number had been cited multiple times and in various international newspapers decades before WW2 began.

Here's a short video of multiple newspaper sources citing the 6 million figure before 1938.

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[–]Enza 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not sure about his personal beef, but I know his concentration camps definitely were kosher.

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[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You understand that Bibi WAS PM then stopped being PM then became PM again?

America may be a Republic but the world isn’t.

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[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

They finally understand why Hitler had a beef (though vegetarian).

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[–]Tigerbitecrazy 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Is this a legit account? Bibi's Twitter is completely different which makes me think this is a goose chase.

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[–]fruitjack 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

yeah im pretty sure creepy drunk yoyos on twitter offer truly incontrovertible evidence

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[–]Popper 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

is it just me or does it seem like he is high or drunk posting this.

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

This is the sad reality.

Fortunately, more people are aware of this than at any other time.

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[–]x0x7[S] 14 insightful - 7 fun14 insightful - 6 fun15 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

It's no longer a conspiracy theory. It's now a conspiracy fact.

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[–]bablarb 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Makes sense how the cia wants everyone to ban huawei. Probably the only 5g company that won't give them backdoors

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[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, they literally grew up with free US protection. This has led them to take it for granted. Does a fish notice the water?

Moreover it feels great to sit on top your high horse and say you're more morally correct than the Americans. Boy the Germans fucking love that. Accept all the benefits while shitting on your provider.

If they actually get NATO to disband, which I personally think should happen, they're going to be very surprised when they have to pay for their own defense. I think nobody thought that far. They just despise us and want the emotional release of hating us.

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[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

From the Germans I've spoken to, this is pretty dead on. They don't want to be involved but when it comes down to it, they do have a certain resentment against the Americans which leads to feeling entitled. The Germans I've spoken with even go so far as to wonder aloud why we still have bases on their land.

It'll never happen but I'd like to see the US strengthen its relationships with countries that have stood up for themselves like Poland and Denmark.

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[–]beermeem 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I think you are generally correct but the Russian "influence" is generally overstated.

Trump is much less "bought off" by Russia than that he sees many similar interests.

It absolutely flabbergasts me the attitude certain people have taken about Russia. This was a country that was our literal mortal enemy for half a century. And now that we have a President willing and able to do his best to make nice (while many differences still exist), those same certain people want to politicize that relationship -- those same certain people who even in my lifetime still idolized Russia for its communist ways.

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[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Huh? Trump? Trump's not the problem. Europeans are the problem. They don't believe in NATO. You really don't know this?

They won't fund their militaries to the bare minimum amount. Only 2.7% of European troops are trained and equipped to a sufficient degree to be deployed in combat. In general, Europe depends on the US for defense and to protect their interests. Simply put, Germany doesn't trust America I just don't see the point of NATO any more. If we are really as untrusted as the Russians, then WTF are we doing there?

And at least half in Germany, France and Italy are unwilling to use military force to defend other NATO allies against Russian aggression. The biggest issue with Germany is that Germans don't believe in NATO. In fact, most of the population does not believe in military alliances at all. And note the support before Trump took office. Almost the same. So, no, I don't think that is from Trump.

Europeans generally expect the U.S. to use military force to defend a NATO ally from a Russian attack, but they are less supportive of using their own armed forces under the same circumstances.

NATO means so much to the 25% of American children living in poverty even though their parents work full time for minimum wage. How about we cut back on NATO, tell the Eurofags to pay for their own defense, and spend our money on them instead.

Here's a great longread on the situation.

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[–]DffrntDrmmr 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

While I don't think NATO will dissolve in the foreseeable future, it will suffer further strain if Trump is re-elected for another four years. If left to Trump's whim (and the Russophiles who have largely influenced him for many years), then NATO might be doomed. But it's key value to the present-day world order should survive Trump's insider attacks.

It's trendy now, since the conclusion of the Moeller investigation, to dismiss Russia's influence on Trump, but what was learned was that many in his inner circle had connections to Moscow. His original manager (Paul Manafort), the one he used to walk the halls with in Trump Tower, was also the manager who got a Kremlin-plant elected to Ukraine's presidency (which led to a citizens revolt, resulting in him fleeing to Moscow).

There were over 20 pro-Kremlin Trump campaign associates, a handful of whom ended up being forced to resign their positions or were convicted of crimes.

Trump's foreign policy decisions have remained consistently in parallel with the objectives of Russian foreign policy, including the weakening and eventual dismantling of NATO.

Though Trump has created discord within the free-world's security institution and wondered aloud why it even exists, I think he realizes he can't simply make it go away for Russia. So, he'll keep whittling away when he can.

NATO will be weakened but it will survive.

President Trump State of the Union address by supertms38 in WorldPolitics

[–]d3rr 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Isn't it bizarre that Guaido got two standing ovations from both sides of the aisle? What about Flint, MI mfers?

NSA shares raw intelligence including Americans' data with Israel (2013) by salvia_d in WorldPolitics

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As unrelated or irrelevant as this might sound, I dare risk to say it; in order to share perspective.

Information generation is the work of Central propaganda HQ; where the information processed and excreted by the public shall return.

When information generation is no longer an issue, there may no longer be any info collection.

Otherwise, you're looking at constancy.

NSA shares raw intelligence including Americans' data with Israel (2013) by salvia_d in WorldPolitics

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Us farm animals aren't allowed at the kitchen table, we're just livestock in databases to them.

I didn't agree to have my data gathered by an operation that won't let me see that data, and then sells it to foreign entities, all paid for by my tax dollars. I don't think any of us agreed to that, yet it's happening to all of us.

"Iran is troubled by irregularities in the results of the #IowaCaucuses. We do not recognize the results, we demand the quick removal of all corrupt #DNC officials & we support popular calls for @DrJillStein to assume the party leadership until free and fair elections can be assured." by salvia_d in WorldPolitics

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'd be fine with that. Anyone would be better than Pelosi and Feinstein.

Reminder: Man made global warming is a hoax that is being pushed through (for 50 years now and without statistically significant evidence) to place a dollar value on all of nature.

The endgame goal is the fictionalization of all of nature.

Zerohedge Suspended On Twitter by salvia_d in WorldPolitics

[–]Popper 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

cuz they just reported on seth rich

Zerohedge Suspended On Twitter by salvia_d in WorldPolitics

[–]DffrntDrmmr 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Zero Hedge is a source of rumors and gossip, advocating an anti-establishment and conspiratorial worldview, and which has been associated with alt-right views and a pro-Russian bias. Zero Hedge's commentary has led to a number of site bans by various global social media platforms.

Zero Hedge's founder and main editor is Daniel Ivandjiiski. He is a Bulgarian-born, U.S.-based blogger who founded the website Zero Hedge in January 2009. Ivandjiiski's Bulgarian citizenship, lifetime ban from securities trading, and his father's own controversial news and political website (Bulgarian: Строго секретно; English "Top Secret") and position in the pre-1990 Bulgarian-Soviet administration are of note.

An ex-employee of Zero Hedge gave an interview to Bloomberg, revealing Ivandjiiski lives in a mansion in New Jersey, saying: Ivandjiiski "lives a lifestyle you only dream of while pretending to speak for you."

The former website staffer said, "I can't be a 24-hour cheerleader for Hezbollah, Moscow, Tehran, Beijing, and Trump anymore. It's wrong. Period. This isn't a revolution. It's a joke." He told Bloomberg that he was pressured to frame issues in a way he felt was "disingenuous," summarizing its political stances as "Russia=good. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. Vladimir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft."

Dr. Craig Pirrong, Professor of Finance at the University of Houston, stated: "I have frequently written that Zero Hedge has the MO of a Soviet agitprop operation, that it reliably peddles Russian propaganda: my first post on this, almost exactly three years ago, noted the parallels between Zero Hedge and Russia Today."

On 20 November 2019, NBC News reported Zero Hedge as the initial source of a "misleading claim about the head of the Ukrainian energy company at the heart of the House impeachment inquiry", which went viral during the impeachment hearings. NBC said that "ZeroHedge apparently misconstrued the original Russian article from the Interfax-Ukraine News Agency, which did not mention an indictment. The Interfax-Ukraine News Agency operates as part of Interfax, a Russian news outlet".

Zerohedge Suspended On Twitter by salvia_d in WorldPolitics

[–]jamesK_3rd 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's probably more indirect. The same thing with movie studios censoring content in order to push it to Chinese markets or google creating a different search engine/algorithm for those in China.

These companies want access to eyeballs, advertising, and user/data aggregation. When a govt says you need to play by these XX rules, shitty companies that don't care about anything their users comply with it, or worse yet, look at it as their "duty" to bring their product to "the people".

Zerohedge Suspended On Twitter by salvia_d in WorldPolitics

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Freedom ain't nothing.

Zerohedge Suspended On Twitter by salvia_d in WorldPolitics

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I figure it will slowly build to a boil until July or even August when the shit really gets turned up.

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[–]giveuptheghost 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The twitterazi are coming for you, thought criminal.

Zerohedge Suspended On Twitter by salvia_d in WorldPolitics

[–]dark_devil_dd 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Took a quick look at it and didn't found anything relevant. Would have to take a better look.

...but lets remember it's the platform where encouraging people violence against minors is apparently ok as long as they're on the wrong side of politics but hurting people's fee fees not ok.

Zerohedge Suspended On Twitter by salvia_d in WorldPolitics

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Does China have substantial control over twitter? I'd be interested in more info if you have any

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[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Twitter is a complete joke at this point

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[–]Hellothereawesome 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Horrible times.

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[–]dark_devil_dd 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Past couple of days it seems to me like China has been ramping up their influence on a bunch of things. Shit is getting crazy, like they're going for full control.

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[–]fruitjack 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

and nothing of value was lost.

Harvard's top chemist arrested for Chinese ties by salvia_d in WorldPolitics

[–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The best Tetris is Building Tetris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDo4Pjk6fsk

Harvard's top chemist arrested for Chinese ties by salvia_d in WorldPolitics

[–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He's not a commie. He's a Ferengi and you're a useful idiot. Look up yuri bezmenov.

Harvard's top chemist arrested for Chinese ties by salvia_d in WorldPolitics

[–]somercet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Chinese ties top comment: "If only there was something you could wrap around them to keep them in place, and tighten it as you took them out..."

Harvard's top chemist arrested for Chinese ties by salvia_d in WorldPolitics

[–]Chipit 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Commie spies...at Harvard? Say it isn't so!

How Israel Exploits the Holocaust to Justify War Crimes Against Palestinians by salvia_d in WorldPolitics

[–]AllStr8SexIsRape 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's no such thing as a war crime in the Jews' struggle against the gentile oppressor class.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/12496/palestinians-gays

Palestinian Authority to withdraw amid Trump’s Mideast peace plan by supertms38 in WorldPolitics

[–]AllStr8SexIsRape 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

From the river to the sea, Israel will be free!

UN Ruling Says “Climate Refugees” Cannot be Returned Back To Their Home Country — US Must Open Its Borders To All Central Americans by Chipit in WorldPolitics

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the UN is playing its hand too early. There must be moves in the works that leaves them desperate

UN Ruling Says “Climate Refugees” Cannot be Returned Back To Their Home Country — US Must Open Its Borders To All Central Americans by Chipit in WorldPolitics

[–]Tom_Bombadil 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Man made climate change is a scam. It's a hoax.

If there is any significant change in the climate, then it is natural.

UN Ruling Says “Climate Refugees” Cannot be Returned Back To Their Home Country — US Must Open Its Borders To All Central Americans by Chipit in WorldPolitics

[–]Tarrock 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

'Climate refugges' where the hell is all these climate problems that are causing this? From the looks of things for the past 50 years, it's the socialist dictatorships causing the issue.

It's time to pull out of the UN.

UN Ruling Says “Climate Refugees” Cannot be Returned Back To Their Home Country — US Must Open Its Borders To All Central Americans by Chipit in WorldPolitics

[–]AbeFroman 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Hey UN: 🖕 Go fuck yourself 🖕

To Young Liberals and Leftists Regarding Iran. "If you are a young liberal or leftist, no doubt you have not heard much of anything about what the current regime in Iran is like. Let me fill you in: this regime is the most anti-liberal, anti-leftist regime in the world." by Chipit in WorldPolitics

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Negative. Carter trusted that nice man the Ayatollah. Iranian leftists, as in Europe, allied with Islam against the Right. Then the Muslims turned on the Left and murdered or exiled them all. Oops.

Stormtrooper in Bolivia funded by the United States of America, trained to terrorize the citizens of a nation for the benefit of western corporations. by salvia_d in WorldPolitics

[–]proc0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Where are the Bolivian Rebels at ? Where is Juan Solo? So many questions.

To Young Liberals and Leftists Regarding Iran. "If you are a young liberal or leftist, no doubt you have not heard much of anything about what the current regime in Iran is like. Let me fill you in: this regime is the most anti-liberal, anti-leftist regime in the world." by Chipit in WorldPolitics

[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

back then, after the shah, the cia picked the islamic republic as the new state form, exactly because it was the most antagonistic towards the commies (both the soviets and the arab baath party).

To Young Liberals and Leftists Regarding Iran. "If you are a young liberal or leftist, no doubt you have not heard much of anything about what the current regime in Iran is like. Let me fill you in: this regime is the most anti-liberal, anti-leftist regime in the world." by Chipit in WorldPolitics

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Your point? It, definitely isn't as bad as Saudi Arabia and we provide arms and weapons to them to destroy other countries we don't like. How about we fuck off, and leave them alone, regime or not.

Israel begins extending ‘silent annexation’ over the West Bank, with the blessings of the Trump administration by salvia_d in WorldPolitics

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

According to the Jerusalem Post, the move — which also includes the expansion of 12 existing nature reserves — is the first time since the Oslo Accords that an approval of its kind has been issued.

Israel begins extending ‘silent annexation’ over the West Bank, with the blessings of the Trump administration by salvia_d in WorldPolitics

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This article was written in 1967 /s

Israel begins extending ‘silent annexation’ over the West Bank, with the blessings of the Trump administration by salvia_d in WorldPolitics

[–]RuckFeddit 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Pompeo has his fingers in this of course. Anything to please his ZOG overlords.