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[–]DaveMaverick 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Why did you sting me?" asked the frog.
"I am a scorpion, it is my nature."

[–]Dune1032[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Get China involved in the negotiations over Ukraine. Tell China that peace would be better for business in Europe.

[–]DaveMaverick 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

China is always a bad actor. Always.

[–]Dune1032[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

China cannot be trusted but it can be used. China wants good relations with Europe for business purposes. The end of the war in Ukraine will improve the business climate. Europe could use some of the money it spends on Ukraine to buy Chinese goods. Ukraine is the breadbasket of Europe. It can sell agricultural products to China.

[–]LordoftheFlies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The perception that China can be used is only beneficial to China, because it opens the door for them. The reality is that China is, and always will be, the one doing the using. That anyone thinks and/or suggests otherwise is either a sign of woeful ignorance or intentional obfuscation on China's behalf.

Letting China into Europe is like letting mice into your house. They may look friendly and harmless when you seem them in the open, but you don't realize the destruction they're causing just out of sight behind the walls until your house starts having serious problems, at which point it's far too late.

You want a preview of Europe's future with China? Take a long, hard look at how Africa is getting fucked over by China right now. But make the blacks whites instead, and the infrastructure not as bombed out and depleted.

[–]Dune1032[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Africa is poor and needed China. Europe isn't poor. That's the very reason China wants good relations with Europe. During World War II, the Western Allies didn't trust Stalin but nevertheless worked with him.