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[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

By the way, the pope agrees with me about the mutilation thing, he just wrote a document about how wrong it is.

Yeah, the Pope always lags about a century behind the culture. That's why Pope Francis is the first Pope to ever say "Well I guess it's okay to use condoms in some circumstances."

No, I'll just tell him he's sick but we love him so we're going to the doctor to help.

Do you think doctors are wizards? If there were any known cure for gender dysphoria, everyone would take it. But there isn't.

And that's not for lack of trying. Trans people have been subjected to talk therapy, every kind of medication, behaviorism, aversion therapy, electroshock, lobotomy. Nothing has worked.

[–]Titanic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

What about exorcism? Has anyone tried that? That might work.

Anyways, mutilating yourself to cheer yourself up doesn't count as real surgery any more than a lobotomy for depression does, so it's not justified.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

What about exorcism? Has anyone tried that?

Of course.

Anyways, mutilating yourself to cheer yourself up doesn't count as real surgery any more than a lobotomy for depression does, so it's not justified.

Despite the bizarre claim that it "doesn't count," it's the treatment with the best observed outcomes.

[–]Titanic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

A REAL exorcism, not the garbage those protestants do. I mean the real thing.

observed outcomes

It's "outcome" is destroyed genitals.

It doesn't fix the gender dysphoria. The brain is still completely sick. The body is still male.

It doesn't fix the brain or body, it gives in to the persons demented fetish/delusion.

If a schizophrenic says their arm wants to kill them so they should chop it off, chopping it off to calm them down is not surgery, it's caving to their dangerous delusion and committing an act of grave bodily harm against the mentally disabled.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

A REAL exorcism, not the garbage those protestants do. I mean the real thing.

Yes, of course REAL exorcisms by REAL Catholic priests have been attempted. Do you seriously think that various Catholics haven't resorted to trying to cast out the demon?

It's "outcome" is destroyed genitals. It doesn't fix the gender dysphoria. The brain is still completely sick.

Its outcome has been shown to be a lower risk of suicide and higher self-reported life satisfaction.

And that is more than can be said for electroshock, drugs, lobotomy, or, um, exorcism.

[–]Titanic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Fuck their satisfaction. If they feel like they are going to kill themselves if we don't chop off their nads, we shouldn't aid and abet their hallucinations. We should forcibly incarcerate them against their will until they stop being such a hazard to themselves.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I see. So if you ever have a trans child, your solution is: try exorcism, and when that fails, resort to life in prison at the taxpayer's expense.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but: please don't have children.

[–]Titanic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I heard most kids grow out of it... UNLESS you put them on blockers.

My solution isn't just exorcism, that's only a last resort.

In my view, having a correctly functioning body and being unhappy is better than mutilating yourself for good feels. Look at this: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/woman-blinded-herself-drain-cleaner-30934249.amp

That's not surgery, that's aiding and abbetting psychotic hallucinations that tell you to DAMAGE yourself. Same thing for gender sodomite mutilation

I also wouldn't lobotomize or electroshock my kid.

I shouldn't have kids? No, YOU shouldn't have kids.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I do have a kid. And, in fact, I have a special needs kid. He's autistic and still mostly nonverbal at age eight.

And since I love him, I did hundreds of hours of research about what's best for him and changed my intended parenting style. I play to his strengths. I work with him to help him become the best "him" he can be, whatever that ends up meaning. Maybe he'll be able to get a job and live independently one day. Maybe he won't. Either way will have to be fine.

I don't seek the services of a priest to cast out the autism demon and then just lock him in a cage until he learns to be normal, shouting at him that autism is BAD to have.

Because I'm a dad. Not a sociopath.

[–]Titanic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm autistic too, that is a medical condition and not a demon.

When I hit myself as a kid in autistic meltdowns, my parents stopped me from doing it. Because they loved me too much to see me damage myself for emotional release.

Now I'm long since cured of that impulse, it went away on it's own.

See what I'm saying? I will do the same to any kids I have. God bless your kid. And may God never let you snip his bits off.