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[–]Musky 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Of course this is a war we should be supporting. Russia isn't our bud. They're not just going to live and let live if it weren't for mean old NATO encroaching on their borders. It's a nation that hasn't exactly been coy about its goals, along with China, of replacing the US as world leader. They have ambitions that don't benefit anyone but themselves.

What's bad for Russia is good for the US, and the world.

It's a terrible price in Ukranian lives being paid, not to mention the cash, but this war is cheaper to fund than the one it might prevent or at least delay coming in the next ten, twenty years.

[–]jerryk[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The place to draw the line is Poland, not Ukraine. Ukraine is traditional Russian territory for centuries, Poland is not. We should put ten divisions of U.S. troops in Poland, that will be quite sufficient to keep Russia under control, along with our nuclear deterrent. NATO's current activities in Ukraine are just making Russia stronger, and getting Russia angry. They are not defending NATO, they are making NATO weaker.

[–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

By the time Russia gets to Poland that's WW3. We can use Ukranians as relatively cheap mercenaries - relative to what it'd cost us to directly engage Russia - in a proxy war and not risk any US or NATO ally lives.

Sometimes I wonder if this was Henry Kissinger's final plan before he died. It's very Kissinger-esque. It's brilliant in a bloody and heartless way. The guy probably has a hard on from beyond the grave.

I'm sure it was no accident it was Ukraine either. We just happened to cozy up to Ukraine, one of the most corrupt nations on Earth, a dozen convienient years before the war. We were grooming them to be mercs. Or at least grooming their government to conscript their civilians to be our mercs.

[–]jerryk[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry, I'm not CIA. I don't think like a CIA op, and neither do most Americans. I prefer to avoid wars, not encourage them. There's no World War III when Russia gets to Poland, they won't fight Poland if Poland is strong enough. It's just a natural border for NATO. No problem. Peace through strength, in Poland.