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[–]makesyoudownvote 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Why does everything always have to be in such absolutes and outrage these days?

Does the hypocrisy bother me? You are damned right it does!

But at the same time Russia really must be stopped for global interests. I don't think that burden should fall on the U.S. as much as it has though. We have China to worry about who recently surpassed our navy in size.

China and North Korea are both waiting on baited breath for the US to make a mistake by over extending or by making a play like this that can be sold as a war crime. They want that justification.

Also I definitely support Ukraine and Zelensky on the whole, but that doesn't mean everything they do is good or in our best interests. Zelensky is playing a game of best interest for his political party in Ukraine. His priority isn't on global stability we are not really on "the same side" we are just unified against a common threat. His tactics are often to escalate to try to bait the U.S. and NATO into helping him. He is often further antagonizing Putin even when for the sake of the world he really shouldn't be. This is the smart and right play for him, but it would be a bad case scenario for us.

It's possible to support part of a thing or certain aspects of a thing without supporting the whole thing. It's also possible to broadly support something, while having issues with certain aspects.

I feel like the entire world basically regressed to teenager brain over the past two decades.

[–]xedrac 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I know Ukraine has their problems, but I don't understand how anyone could support Russia in this ridiculous war. Putin is a clown.

[–]makesyoudownvote 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

While I DEFINITELY agree, I do also feel like we are getting a fairly biased feed of information to help it seem more one sided than it is.

Now don't get me wrong again here. Putin was the aggressor, and needs to be stopped, but I think his motivations make more sense than people are willing to explore. They want simplified easy to understand lines of good guys and bad guys.

But to be fair, it's always been that way, which is probably why the media is doing what they are doing. Most people are incapable of even understanding the complexity of reality.

[–]xedrac 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What do you mean "more one sided than it is"? Regardless of any shady things Ukraine may be guilty of, Russia tried to blitz their capitol, raze their cities and infrastructure, install new government officials, new currency, etc... As far as I'm concerned, Ukraine has a free pass to do whatever is necessary to retain their sovereignity. Are they shining examples of great human beings? Not likely. But I find it very interesting that eastern Ukraine has massive reserves of natural gas... Something that Europe could easily rely on instead of Russia. I think that's what this war is really about.