Chicago's lesbian mayor, Lori Lightfoot, launched a police raid on Sunday on a predominately black church for holding services in defiance of her coronavirus shutdown orders • /s/BiblicalSubmission

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[–][deleted] 16 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

So? You don't get special exceptions to illness or disease because of your beliefs. Worse, you still hurt others. Your recourse is in the law, not in breaking that law and disrespecting or possibly killing your fellow citizenry.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 26 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

You don't get special exceptions to illness or disease because of your beliefs.

Constitutionally protected rights cannot be made illegal. Freedom of religion, freedom to assemble, and freedom protest are protected.

It is illegal to infringe on these rights. She is an enemy of freedom.

She is an elected official. She should be arrested immediately, and tried for treason.

If people are afraid of getting the flu then they can stay home.

Edit: Please watch this 2 min video and form your own opinion of Lightfoot.

Chicago Mayor Lightfoot What Did She Say???

I would never in a million years have guessed the words that come out of her mouth in the last 20 seconds.

It is a truth bomb that should be an immediate call to arms.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Rights are not absolute things like magical incantations. The courts have throughout the country repeatedly backed up that the states have the authority to inhibit or alter your rights in all kinds of conditions, such as arrest, and in the event of a pandemic. Successive supreme court rulings over the past 100 years repeatedly affirm the ability for states to declare quarantines, as well as close and regulate businesses, and these include places of worship so long as it is not explicitly a prohibition on only places of worship or specific ones.

In other words, no, your rights are not magically immutable just because you don't care about other people. This is because, unlike children, normal adults understand their actions can infringe on the rights of others. Such as their right to liberty and happiness. Can't be very happy if a bunch of tantrum throwing toddlers in adult bodies are spreading around a disease, now can you?

[–]Dr_Bukkake 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I see what you are saying but rights are in fact absolute things. There’s a difference between privileges and rights, privileges can be taken away and rights can’t.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

In that case the entire constitution is composed of privileges, if I accept your definition of "rights". Because they are taken away, variously, in various contexts, including contexts provided for in the constitution.

[–]Dr_Bukkake 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There has been amendments but no constitutional rights have ever been taken away.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Uh, yes there are. Felony prisoners lose the ability to vote as well as own firearms, for example. Many rights, including the 1st amendment, were prohibited during WW2 for fear of spies (the origin of much censorship that has been slowly dismantled over the last century). In fact emergency powers explicitly allow the government to infringe on these rights in extremes, such as a pandemic, as upheld by the supreme court.

Perhaps instead of claiming this isn't true, you mean to be saying it "shouldn't" be done this way...?

[–]72ndGender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In fact emergency powers explicitly allow the government to infringe on these rights in extremes, such as a pandemic, as upheld by the supreme court.

I believe you, but could you provide the case law for this one? Not referencing martial law, of course.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Some of those changes were unconstitutional. Just because the established powers at the time okayed it doesn't make it ok. There are plenty of scholars who have spoken about the unconstitutional laws and policies enacted all across the western world. We live in a hypocritical nation.