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[–]YoMamma 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

You can easily search for that information, if it's not already obvious. There is an extensive cold war history to this. Read up. If you want weapons and personnel comparisons, see:

https://bestdiplomats.org/nato-vs-russia-military-comparison/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1293174/nato-russia-military-comparison/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Don't know anything about the first two, like who are the people who make it up, who funds them, etc. because that's relevant and what you would be pointing out if I was throwing Russian sources out here. As for Wikipedia - LOL. But all that aside, plopping down some links and saying "you can easily search for that information" is pretty lame; you don't seem able to articulate your argument in your own words, your previous talking points notwithstanding. So I gotta tell ya, I'm having a difficult time taking you at all seriously.

One of my primary sources for military analysis is Col. Douglas Macgregor, retired US Army and a military historian. Part 3 of his 3-part discussion with Michael Vlahos, who has taught at the Military War College since the 80s, has been summarized here and includes links to summaries to Part 1 and Part 2. These discussions are from a year or so ago so they don't address Macron's proposal, but they do address what Gen. Petreus was talking up at the time. What follows is a small taste of what's at the link:

Obviously, we're not thinking intelligently about it or we would not even consider something as utterly crazy as the "coalition of the willing" - unless the coalition is close to a million men and consists of a very different composition from the forces we have today.

In Part 2 they discuss the strategic failures of NATO. This part is especially relevant to the current discussion:

Americans need to understand that there is no command structure with all the assets (Command, Control, Communications, Computers, Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance or C4ISR), that is European, it's all American. Anything that happens militarily in Europe is of necessity American, because if you take that backbone away, no one can replace it. US dominance was so great that European militaries began to slough off the things that made them credible as militaries.

He gives what many, including me, consider a clear-eyed assessment of current US military power and it's not a pretty picture. The danger is that those who want to use our military all over the world have this unrealistic vision locked into our military strength in the mid-20th century which has no bearing to today's reality. I can think of few things stupider than underestimating your enemy while overestimating yourself, but that seems to be what we're doing, with our European and other allies tagging along behind like the compliant vassals they are.

[–]sdl5 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ammo:

Oleksandra Mamchii A faux diplomat with a degree, Ukr native, "youth activist", and basically a very young mouthpiece for the globalist crowd

Writes heavily for the site referenced, every single bit of it the CIA/NEOCON narrative.


Statista, claiming to be current stats*-

Key points: -From very early in 2023 -Much is estimated -NATO values include entire US military And -Key point is even then Russia was basically equal to all of NATO in ground forces and equipment.

Care to guess what has happened to much NATO equipment in the last year?

How about Ru production of mil?

Or Ru volunteer returning forces? Vs alllll of the West suffering mass cashing out and terrible recruiting figures while also strpngly pushing woke as mil priority and shoving out the trad pool of fighting forces.

I cannot imagine why we are laughing at this yahoo 💁😹💃💯🤦

*Survey time period 2023

Supplementary notes *Information taken from this SIPRI press release (as of January 2022). The values for the USA, France and the United Kingdom were added together for the information for NATO.

Status of all other information: beginning of 2023; Data retrieved on March 24, 2023.

The figures for NATO were calculated using the figures for the individual member states. Information may be partially estimated according to the source

Comparison of the military capabilities of NATO and Russia 2023 Published by Statista Research Department, Mar 30, 2023 As of 2023, NATO had approximately 3.36 million active military personnel compared with 1.33 million active military personnel in the Russian military. The collective military capabilities of the 30 countries that make up NATO outnumber Russia in terms of aircraft, at 20,633 to 4,182, and in naval power, with 2,151 military ships, to 598. Russia's ground combat vehicle capacity is more competitive, however, with 12,566 main battle tanks, to 12,408. The combined nuclear arsenal of the United States, United Kingdom, and France amounted to 5,943 nuclear warheads, compared with Russia's 5,977.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

while also strpngly pushing woke as mil priority and shoving out the trad pool of fighting forces.

This is the utterly insane part to me. Did no one realize this would be a bad idea while we're fighting a proxy war in Ukraine and lighting fires in multiple other places that boots on the ground may ultimately have to put out?

The people in charge have been sniffing their own effluvium for too long, it's addled their brains.