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[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

This is such an excellent and simple statement of what we should be about, treating information as a necessary prerequisite to judgment. Only deceivers fear open debate and discussion because they have no convincing argument and can only win through coercion.

Putin has been painted as an insane imperialist ever since Russia refused to become another American vassal. They wouldn't fear and condemn this interview if it supported their claims; it won't, as anyone who's actually read his many speeches and interviews already knows.

[–]chakokat 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

They wouldn't fear and condemn this interview if it supported their claims

100%

The Keir Simmons interview of Putin from 2021 is still available. I watched it yesterday.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

If you're familiar with karlof1 from MOA, he has a substack and posts pretty much all Putin's and Lavrov's major speeches and interviews. They give you a good sense of where these Russians are coming from but more than that, all the interesting projects they're working on domestically and internationally.

[–]chakokat 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, I’m familiar with him and try to read him regularly.

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I really wish I had time to get more into the Substack subculture.

I'm so busy with just Youtube and Reddit nowadays, that I only get into Substack tangentially...

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I follow a few people there but selectively. Some of them are extremely prolific and there's only so much a person can keep up with, plus there's some topics I'm more interested in than others.

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I followed one or two as friends of a few people I know.

I ended up watching as they got everything wrong and believed the West Narrative against Russia to their own detriment.

I have yet to have the heart to tell them they were wrong on every issue. I'm just letting them find their own path without my influence. But how much they got wrong... Oh man the stories...

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It really is amazing how much ignorance still abounds on Ukraine in particular. You have to be totally incurious to the point of never bothering to read or listen to anything outside the mainstream to say some of the stuff they say.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Do you have a link? I don't recall seeing that.

[–]chakokat 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6pJd6O_NT0

Putin is very clever. The very first Q Keir asks you can see from a small smile that Putin understands English but he asks Keir to please repeat the Q as if he didn’t understand what Keir was asking. Keir then fumbles when he has to rephrase the Q and Putin laughs before he answers. You can see that Putin was prepared to tango with the smug and rude “journalist”. They tangled quite a few times and Putin refused to be manipulated.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm about 15 minutes in and have to say what an asshole this interviewer is. I can't imagine a reporter from any other country being so deliberately rude and provocative, and I've never heard a Russian official say publicly what this reporter claims Biden said, that he looked into Putin's eyes and told him he didn't see a soul. Of course, Biden is a pathological liar so it likely never happened to begin with.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Looking forward even more to watching it ;-D

[–]automoderator[M] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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