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[–]ageingrockstar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I agree with Musk's take on unions. He says that if Tesla's workforce unionise then the company will have deserved it (i.e. badly treated its workers).

I don't believe Tesla is badly treating its workers at this point in time, and I doubt the UAW will be successful in its attempt to unionise Tesla.

However, Ford, GM and Stellantis all thoroughly deserve the treatment that they got from the UAW. Bad companies deserve union action.

[–]RandomCollection[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Having worked for a Tesla tier 1 supplier, I would unionize if I worked for Tesla in a heartbeat. Musk treats his workers poorly.

Besides, not much changes when a company treats its workers well and they unionize. You can tell the way Musk is acting that if the Tesla staff unionized, they would have to make major changes.

[–]ageingrockstar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I acknowledge yr personal experience in this area (which I don't have).

Regarding this :

not much changes when a company treats its workers well and they unionize

I would say it depends on the union that those workers join. Just as there are bad corporations (Ford, GM, etc) there are also bad unions. And I think the two are somewhat mirror images, although it's still much better for the pair to exist (Ford, GM <> UAW) rather than there only be the bad corporations (e.g. the all powerful chaebols in South Korea). But I think if the workers do work for a good company (putting aside whether Tesla is good or not), then joining a 'bad' union would be a mistake.

So now going back to Tesla, I think it will be determined how well its workers think of the company, on whether they collectively decide to join the UAW. If they do then that will indicate that the company is bad enough for it to be worthwhile to join a bad (but powerful) union.