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[–]stickdog[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Two Key Issues After RFK Jr. took a strong position supporting Israel’s war with Palestine, it seemed to many that it flew in the face of his position on peace and war.

As a result, many revoked their support for him, and his campaign manager Dennis Kucinich quit.

We can’t say for sure why Kucinich quit, but his position on Israel has been quite clear. He points out the ‘nothingness’ of war consciousness, and how we can’t expect anything good from taking this kind of stance. He, like many others including myself, suggests taking a new approach, one built on peace and healing, not more destruction.

I recommend checking out Kucinich’s statement below. He is standing by a principle here.

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The question might be, why is RFK Jr. not standing by his stated principle of peace and healing the divide? This is a question that many people need to push him to meaningfully answer.

The only thing I’ve been able to find that summarizes a number of points on why he supports Israel in what they are currently doing is the video linked here.

He essentially explains that Hamas is a big problem, wants to eliminate Israel and Jews, and needs to be stopped. And that other countries would be responding the same way if what happened on Oct. 7th happened to them.

But in 2023, is there not a better way to deal with Hamas? Palestinian people and their actions are not Hamas, yet they are paying the price. At the same time, it is clear Israel is not simply targeting Hamas.

Why does indiscriminately killing tens of thousands of Palestinians become the answer in dealing with Hamas? Humanity is being lost here.

Either people who believe another way is possible are naive, or we simply don’t have leadership willing to explore the option.

Netanyahu is taking the actions of a war criminal. RFK Jr. would call out former US presidents who’ve done the same, yet he is giving Netanyahu a pass here.

Another major issue RFK Jr. has gotten wrapped up in is his support of billionaire hedge fund manager Bill Ackman’s open letter to the president of Harvard calling for consequences for students who are harsh on Israel and clashing with Jewish students at the school.

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[–]Maniak🥃😾 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

He essentially explains that Hamas is a big problem, wants to eliminate Israel and Jews, and needs to be stopped. And that other countries would be responding the same way if what happened on Oct. 7th happened to them.

In other words, he's regurgitating zionist talking points. That 'explanation' isn't what should be discussed given that it's all bullshit. Him using this as an explanation is the actual issue, and the only explanation to this has been the simplest one: he's been taught to be a zionist since he was a toddler, like many others.

Which makes him, in the current context of zionists holding a lot of power over the US congress, a worthless candidate who wouldn't ever be a 'peace candidate'.

Just another establishment hack owned by outside entities.

In order for him to 'fix' any of this, given how far he went in his declarations of unconditional support, he would first have to reject zionism in its entirety. I'm not seeing that happening any time soon.

[–]stickdog[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I agree.

However, his candidacy at least seems viable, and I like him more than I like Trump or Biden.

Yes, faint praise indeed.

But he needs to at least champion the principle of free speech over his bizarre, extreme, and unfailing worship of Zionism to retain any support from me.

[–]Maniak🥃😾 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

However, his candidacy at least seems viable, and I like him more than I like Trump or Biden.

Sure, but when he decided to go from 'somewhat good' to 'lesser evil' is when I cut the cord on my end. And the zionist shit isn't just about Israel and Palestine. It affects every single policy he's still good on, or rather was, making him worthless on all of them as long as he remains tied to Israel, especially to that extent.

He declared himself to be even more of a zionist than Joe Fucking Biden, all by himself, without any political need for this. In the red flag category, that's a pretty big one.

But he needs to at least champion the principle of free speech over his bizarre, extreme, and unfailing worship of Zionism to retain any support from me.

Given that he's already been cheering on and demanding that colleges censor pro-Palestinian protests, the "free speech champion" ship has already sailed.

He chose this hill to kill his entire campaign on, in every aspect...

[–]stickdog[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Pretty much.

And this boggles my mind because he had seemed like at least a reasonable person on every other issue. I mean, not perfect on many issues, but at least reasonable. I just don't get why he decided to stake out the furthest corner of extreme Zionism instead of just sticking to the garden variety insane Zionism of every other federally elected official save the one all the others censured.

[–]Maniak🥃😾 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I just don't get why he decided to stake out the furthest corner of extreme Zionism instead of just sticking to the garden variety insane Zionism of every other federally elected official save the one all the others censured.

Well... we obviously can't guess what's inside his head, but there is a well-known process/type of organization that is extremely effective at making otherwise rational people suddenly start acting irrationally for no sensible reason.

The very same thing that zionism has been weaponizing from the start by using it as its basis.

As of right now, religious indoctrination is both the simplest and the most fitting explanation for the behavior we've been seeing from him. It's like a trigger was flipped in RFK's head when the Roger Waters smear campaign started and it took over everything else going forward.

Which is a good thing in a sense, because when somebody has a trigger that can instantly turn them from a peace advocate to a genocidal bloodthirsty warmonger, it's better to know it before you start throwing money away to try getting him elected.