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[–]unagisongsBurn down Reddit! 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Life is too short to spend it voting for genocidal war criminals.

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

genocidal war criminals

Career genocidal war criminals. Only Hillary could be a worse choice IMHO.

[–]BerryBoy1969It's not red vs. blue - It's capital vs. you 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Where do you draw your lines?

Anyone running in either the Democratic or Republican branches of Government Inc. At some point people have to admit to themselves that they can't win a shell game without a pea.

The DemPublican duopoly exists for the sole purpose of keeping the pea out of the game.

There is no "lesser" evil choice in our owners selectoral system. There is only overt evil, and covert evil provided for the hoi polloi to choose between.

So vote citizen. Our owners depend upon the support of people just like you.

[–]tsanazi2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for asking. I'm not likely to vote for Biden at this point anyway, but one "line" I'm drawing is that if RFK gets killed without Secret Service protection I will absolutely not vote for Biden.

[–]RR_2023 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I thought when the Democrats choose Biden, there was no way he could win.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4794140/user-clip-joe-biden-celebrates-white-genocide

[–]kingsmegLiberté, égalité, fraternité 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Where do I draw the line? Giving an honest-to-god Nazi war criminal a standing ovation in Parliament.

[–]RR_2023 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Sounds a bit shrill. What crime did he commit?

[–]3andfro 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Reference is to Canada's Parliament, not corrupt and addled Joe: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/24/nazi-linked-veteran-ovation-zelenkyy-canada-visit-00117857

kingsmeg is Canadian.

[–]kingsmegLiberté, égalité, fraternité 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

As a member of a volunteer Waffen-SS unit, he slaughtered Poles, Roma and Jews with such barbarity that Himmler decided Germany needed a more humane way of executing people, and settled on Zyklon-B ?

[–]RR_2023 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

He did these things? I was going to question this based on the unlikelyhood given the time but the person in question was 98 years old! So maybe he could have been there. Even still, I don't buy in to this shrill outrage about Germans. We don't have it for Japanese. Something about it always feels contrived. And yet our vets are "good guys"? Gimme a break. Heck, the things the US did to Germany AFTER the war was a war crime and that is OUR GOVERNMENT - not some non-existent one from the past.

[–]ageingrockstar 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So maybe he could have been there

He most definitely was there. He wrote about it in a memoir. Called those years the best years of his life. He's an unrepentant Nazi, whose life history was not at all hidden before he was invited and then applauded by the Canadian government.

Also, he wasn't German.

[–]RR_2023 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Time proved him right.

[–]Centaurea 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Time proved him right.

Sure didn't take long for this user to show their hand.

[–]ageingrockstar 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

WTF ?

[–]kingsmegLiberté, égalité, fraternité 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I also question the accusations leveled against an entire people, or an entire army. By all accounts the German army was extremely professional, and if we're going to rank armies by brutality towards fellow combatants, the Canadian army was apparently worse, with a reputation for absolute savagery in the trenches.

But in the case of Hunka, the crimes against humanity perpetrated by his 'Galicia' brigade of the Waffen SS, made up of Ukrainian nationalist volunteers, are well documented. They literally killed tens of thousands of civilians in grotesque manners.

[–]unagisongsBurn down Reddit! 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

By all accounts the German army was extremely professional

This is a myth. The German professional soldiers distanced themselves from taking responsibility for atrocities under their watch. Yet they let atrocities occur lest they lose their command. While the hardcore Nazi true-believers were buzz-fucking-saws through eastern Europe. The "professional" soldiers looked the other way or quietly participated. A few actually took action to oppose the Nazi state these were a tiny minority.

Much of US initial accounts of the war on the eastern front came from the testimony of these surviving German officers. Obviously they had a specific reason to paint themselves in a better light under allied captivity. There weren't anyone to interview from the Soviet Union as they were all dead. There wasn't Soviet documentation, photographs or film for the US to piece together the eastern front. Much of what the west has learned about the eastern front came from after the collapse of the Soviet Union where historians finally got to review Soviet documentation. All the "nice" Germans commanders went passively into a genocidal rampage all the same as the actively monstrous Nazi arch-fiends.

[–]3andfro 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There's nothing the husk of Biden can do to get my vote.

Nor do I think he and his handlers care.

[–]unagisongsBurn down Reddit! 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia.

  • Sen. Charles E. Schumer

[–]3andfro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah yes, I remember it well.

Another career pol who's past his stale date. He's 73 this year.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Biden administration's enabling of genocide in Palestine is just the most recent red line for me and comes on the heels of one red line after another over the past three years.

[–]RandomCollection[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

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I'm sure that as we get closer to November 2024, there are going to be more increasingly desperate liberal Democratic Establishment types demanding that the left vote for Biden.

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I doubt he makes it to November. The Democrats are dumb, but probably not that dumb.

[–]RandomCollection[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well, the Democratic Establishment was dumb enough to run Hillary Clinton in 2016, so there is that.

Maybe California Governor Gavin Newsom is the backup plan. He's been making a lot of moves lately.

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yep. Vetoing that trans bill in CA was the clearest sign.

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Plus, the trip to China.

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not desperate enough to change their warmongering corporatist ways.