@nick_brana: "This is Cornel West’s way of dropping out. He doesn’t have the resources or expertise to get ballot access as an independent. Now he can run a messaging campaign without spoiling Biden."

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[–]sdl5 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are those still backing this last useless play by CW actually listening to themselves?

I am hearing echoes of those repeating the words of activists seriously called out after major baldfaced lies including outright criminal behavior:

"They were trying to start a conversation" "Now the narrative has shifted, this will effect change"

BULLSHIT

THIS is nothing more than the classic intellectual sheepdog role.

And even with the back Biden language CW has now done you lot are in fierce denial-

YOU ARE BEING SHEEPHERDED INTO DOCILE POLITE DISCUSSIONS RATHER THAN REFUSING TO GIVE LEGITIMACY TO THE ELITE POLITICAL MACHINE.

Smdh that a solid EIGHT YEARS after this latest tactic began against the proudly well educated lefts and liberals, and over 7 years since it became clear with B's capitulation to Hillz and the DNC, that a groups as THOROUGHLY eyes open as WotB regulars could be this self-deluded STILL. 😒🤦🙃

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Jimmy Dore was right again.

[–]3andfro 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hard not to come to that conclusion. :(

[–]ageingrockstar 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Just so you know running 3rd party doesn't mean you have to run as 3 different parties in an election

https://twitter.com/OrganizerMemes/status/1709962681669628080

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gold 😄

[–]unagisongsBurn down Reddit! 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ding. Ding. Ding.

An unserious man that can't handle the kick-in-the-teeth that is American politics.

West lost me when he went Biden Bro.

[–]rondeuce40DC Is Wakanda For Assholes 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Cornell doesn't even has a book to sell, at least Marianne and Cenk can do a book tour while faux running for president, shitty as it is.

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Looks like it. The Due Dissidence guys say the same thing here.

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Code Pink segment was especially good.

[–]kingsmegLiberté, égalité, fraternité 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

West always knew he wasn't going to win. So he's running either as a way to change the narrative, get people talking about issues that actually matter, or just as a vanity project. If it was just a vanity project, he would have stayed with the Greens. But the Greens are controlled opposition and they wouldn't let him control his own messaging. That points to him running as a way of raising awareness and changing the narrative. IMHO. I could be wrong, but I think he's the genuine article, and a very intelligent person.

[–]ageingrockstar 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

and a very intelligent person

My exposure to West is very shallow but from watching that interview he did with Jimmy Dore, I was struck by how intellectually shallow he was. So, that's just one exposure but I wasn't seeing intelligence. My judgement was that he was a fraud, and just happened to be in the right time, at the right place and with the right background to get promoted to an academic position he didn't deserve (not that unusual these days).

[–]kingsmegLiberté, égalité, fraternité 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You have to know what game West is playing before you can judge his performance. As I've been saying, West knows he can't win, and further, that if he looked like he was going to win, he would get the JFK/RFK treatment. Knowing that, which one was being intellectually shallow, Dore or West? And I say this as a Dore fan, Jimmy was way way out of line in that interview, in fact that interview might have been the reason he's currently trying to kick his pot habit.

West did as he always does, he tried to have a conversation that challenged his listeners. Not Jimmy, Jimmy's audience. If you re-listen and tune out Jimmy, listen to just what West said, you might get a very different impression. It doesn't help that he's almost speaking a different language than Jimmy, he's talking academia with a theology accent, and Jimmy is talking bricklayer. West does need to improve how he addresses working class people.

[–]Maniak🥃😾[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I could be wrong, but I think he's the genuine articl

Here's hoping.

and a very intelligent person.

That's for sure, but is he combining intelligence and being grounded in the reality of regular people?

He's been running for a long time in circles that are entirely disconnected from that reality, which is a potentially very bad mix with his intelligence. He could be intelligently pushing narratives that are extremely harmful to regular people while believing that they're good. e.g. lockdowns or pretending that there's a lesser evil between the red and blue sides of the duopoly.

[–]kingsmegLiberté, égalité, fraternité 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

He teaches undergrads, to some degree. I think he has his ear closer to the common man than you or I, and I am the common man (on paper).

[–]Maniak🥃😾[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That's what my image of him was before all this, but he's certainly doing a good job at making this blurry :/

This whole campaign could be summarized as "West is flailing about, not sure what to do or say"

Even RFK seems to be more focused, and he's the one who didn't even realize that his own party is corrupt beyond redemption while he was getting fucked by it in real time.

Not going to draw any conclusion any time soon, but it'd be nice if either of them stopped fucking things up at some point and started actually working on moving the narrative.

[–]kingsmegLiberté, égalité, fraternité 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This whole campaign could be summarized as "West is flailing about, not sure what to do or say"

If I tried teaching theology to a bunch of undergrads, that's probably what they would say about me. And I have a couple years of uni theology under the belt. West has 0 experience in running a political campaign, and he's going up against the entire US political establishment. And their job is to keep people like West away from the levers of power.

[–]Maniak🥃😾[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So basically what I randomly said when this came out would apply: if both he and RFK are going independent, they may just as well join forces.

If they're both seriously running against the duopoly, then a united anti-duopoly front with those two would be way more effective than two separate efforts, especially when they've each managed to spread doubts by fucking up every step of their non-independent campaigns.

[–]kingsmegLiberté, égalité, fraternité 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would love to see the two join forces. But RFK won't, because he thinks he can actually win, so he's going to do something incredibly stupid like pick a shitlib or a swamp creature as a running mate. Hope I'm wrong.

[–]Maniak🥃😾[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Guy has a point.