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[–]XavierSanity 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I used to think Tim Black was cool.

[–]unagisongsBurn down Reddit! 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Guy did a heel turn real quick when he thought he was in the neoliberal money.

[–]kingsmegLiberté, égalité, fraternité 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Jimmy Dore was way out of line in his Cornel West interview, but not because he's a fucking Trump supporter. Rather because he thinks he's smarter than West and wanted to lecture him on how to run his campaign.

[–]unagisongsBurn down Reddit! 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nobody was forcing Cornel West to embarrass himself. Clearly Cornel is not finished in that department.

[–]Orochiwe don't need no water let the mother[honk] burn 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

To Jimmy's credit, he correctly identified the things that were wrong with Bernie's campaign when he was raging about that in 2020. Bernie was saying a lot of the wrong things, and wound up dropping out in early April.

[–]kingsmegLiberté, égalité, fraternité 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think we all had the right to call out Bernie in '20, after watching what he did in '16. His '20 run was pure sheepdogging. Like I said, when someone reveals themselves to be disingenuous or a con artist, by all means poke at 'em with a stick.

[–]Maniak🥃😾[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

He wanted to call him out on what he (rightfully) saw as major mistakes on the part of West in the hope that it maybe would have had an impact. That doesn't make him way out of line or believe himself to be smarter than West.

He already tried to explain this multiple times, including that he wanted to talk to West privately but the campaign refused and insisted on doing it publicly. Maybe hoping that Dore would self-censor? Who knows.

Anyway, besides the point, not going back to endless arguing over it. This smear piece is complete and utter bullshit, obvious bullshit, and West qualifying it as being somehow 'courageous' is, as I said, not going to help.

It's also stupid as fuck, but maybe this is another criticism of West that would be treated as some kind of unforgivable offense.

[–]kingsmegLiberté, égalité, fraternité 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I haven't watched this particular video because I don't have the time today to listen to 1hr of that on 2x speed hoping he gets to a point somewhere. But if it's as bad as everyone says, with him basically calling Dore a Trumper, then West's comment on the video is indeed problematic.

That doesn't mean Dore was right to call out West, because he wasn't. When you have someone like West on your show, in the context of a political campaign, you have to let them speak. Not shout them down and explain how they should be running their campaign.

[–]Maniak🥃😾[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

@SarcasmStardust:

Yo. They put a fake picture of trump in the background of Jimmy’s pic? That is so fucking gross. Slimeball shit.

@jvgraz:

How is it that any even minimally hopeful candidate always ends up fracturing the Left into smaller and smaller pieces?

@jakki_jax:

Perhaps"saluting" a disingenuous hit piece on Dore wasn't good outreach 2day. The pic of Dore isn't from the interview a false attempt 2 make him look "angry". Questions aren't betrayal. Dore isn't even remotely a Trump supporter. Fake Trump pic in background.

@anyaparampil:

Attacking Jimmy for presenting a straightforward critique of his campaign, and weaponizing race to do so, shows lack of political vision and character. The simple fact is that Dr West did not have a response for Jimmy, so he pivoted to personal attacks. It’s sad

[–]Maniak🥃😾[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, that's not going to help...

What is West saluting? This sorry piece of smear attempt by Tim Black, hardly a reference in objective coverage, using a badly Photoshopped thumbnail trying to make Dore look like a Trump supporter.

Not to mention this pile of nonsense in the description:

In today's video, we dive deep into a shocking moment: Commentator Jimmy Dore openly criticizes Dr. Cornel West, a respected intellectual and activist. Why? It appears Dore is more interested in pandering to his Trump-supporting base than engaging in meaningful discourse. We dissect the interview, examine the potential motivations behind this betrayal, and discuss its wider implications for public debate. Don't miss this critical look at the breakdown of alliances in the pursuit of clicks and political expediency.

Shitlib-level of delusion but then again, it's Tim Black. It's apparently shocking to... criticize a candidate for the US presidency.

And yet, this tweet from Cornel West.

Once again, if this came from an advisor, he really surrounded himself with the exact same kind of dipshits as if he was running in the democratic party. If it came from himself... then it raises more and worse questions, so I hope it's the first one.