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[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

I'm beginning to think it's none of the above, just the sugar-coating added to induce gullible liberals to accept "solutions" that will ultimately eliminate their autonomy and agency.

[–]rondeuce40DC Is Wakanda For Assholes 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

A lurch towards a social credit score for individuals perhaps?

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. I have friends I fear would walk right into the trap because they don't pay attention to what's happening, they're too mired in their tech conveniences.

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

It's well-established at this point that you can make a liberal do practically anything by telling her she'll be a good person if she does it. These are the most miserable people in existence: childless, faithless, rootless, seething with hatred for their own ancestors, their own history, even their own skin and organs.

Offer them redemption as an "anti-racist," or a savior of the planet, and of course they'll crawl over broken glass for it.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

There's a huge helping of that but I would argue there's also an element of reacting emotionally instead of rationally. I saw this with my mother, may she rest in peace; she was a generous donor especially when it came to organizations purporting to "feed the children". I finally got her to let me research these various organization to make sure they were on the up-and-up when it came to the money going where donors intended. It doesn't require subsuming empathy for the plight of others, just not allowing it to drive you into irrational actions that lead to unintended consequences.

The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. - Justice Louis Brandeis

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Absolutely. I had to fight my mom on the same sort of thing. Thank goodness for Charity Navigator and other such sites; for the longest time she was showering money on anyone and anything that claimed to help animals. Put anything furry with big eyes on an envelope and my mom will still just melt.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

It's so surprising because these are not naive people, at least my mother wasn't. But I think you nailed it; for your mother it was furry critters, for my mother it was starving children that triggered the Pavlovian response. But tbh, I wasn't much better back in the day. Having extra income to donate to "worthy" causes made it easy to throw money at problems instead of engaging in actual activism and it took far too long for me to wise up.

[–]Maniak🥃😾 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

It's all about triggers. Find the right trigger and you can make anybody do anything. That's why they're so insistent on trying to get to kids as soon as possible with whatever conditioning their particular environment is fond of. If you install triggers early enough, they'll last a lifetime and resist most attempts at deprogramming. Much cheaper than having to program an adult.

For some it's making them think that by doing X they'll be GoodPeople™️ and be able to brag about it to their friend. For others it religion (which does exactly that, but still deserves a separate category for all the bad it's done) or guns. For others it's doing some kind of posturing about race, or gender, or whichever 'oppressed' group is the flavor of the week.

Even when you know what your triggers are, you're still just as susceptible to them anyway. You see it, you know it's bullshit, you do it anyway because "you just have to".

Humans are easily manipulated dumbfucks, we never evolved out of that and psychopaths exploited this and grabbed power all over before we ever had a chance to.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

And a cheerful good afternoon to you, too! Can't decide whether to start drinking or just go back to bed (and I know which one you'll suggest but go for it anyway).

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    [–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Can I take this as permission to pursue both options? I'm game!

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      [–]Maniak🥃😾 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

      Hey, it's late evening and there's wine so... wine in bed \o/

      [–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      What, no whisky or whiskey (depending on your preference)?

      [–]Maniak🥃😾 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      On a budget, since Macron's fuckery with the bullshit pandemic measures have triggered asshole executives all around to fuck over precisely my kind of contracting jobs \o/