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[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

PBD asks Charlie Kirk why DeSantis refused to attend Turning Point event

 

One phone call to President Trump, he's like "I'm all in, I'm there, let me know."

...

Vivek Ramaswamy, to his great credit, text message in five minutes: "Charlie I'll be there." It is very difficult to get communication from Governor DeSantis's team...

I'm telling you right now, he's on pace to finish third or fourth in this primary. Vivek Ramaswamy is on pace to be the second vote-getter in this nomination.

 

Breitbart article

 

Amusing sidenote: RFK Jr was invited

 

He texted me back, he says, "Charlie, I'm trying to win a Democrat primary."

 

😄

 

More Charlie:

You have to talk to the new Republican party that, guess what, doesn't want us to be involved in Ukraine, doesn't want open borders, doesn't want limitless trade deals...

If you understand the Republican base... they are a scorned community. How many times, from Mitt Romney to Paul Ryan to Mitch McConnell, have they heard the same tired talking points... so they are hyper-paranoid that somebody is going to swoop in and be purchased by the war lobby, the pharmaceutical lobby, and that's Trump's appeal. Trump's appeal - the more he's indicted, the more he's attacked, they say, "At least he's not Paul Ryan."

 

PBD talks about knowing your place and learning from others

The best thing he could do is if he can figure out a way to be around a guy who is possibly the greatest marketer.

Who won on TV, who won in politics, and who won in business, who won in real estate in New York where you're negotiating air!

You go and spend four years under this guy, you know what you're going to learn after four years? Not policies. You're going to sit in the room, just like everybody sizes each other up, they'll say,

"Yeah, I'm better than him at that."

"I'm definitely better than him at that."

"He's wrong about that policy."

"That's not true."

"Oh shit, I can't do that!"

And you can't do that, Ron.

That's marketing. And to win at that level, you need that.

 

Negotiating air - what was PBD talking about?

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Now that DeSantis is faltering, the moneymen are reportedly making eyes at Tim Scott. Another ridiculous biography candidate; no one would ever have heard of him if he were white.

[–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

lmao. Are we going to find out he's 1/1024th Italian?

Edit: Ah fuck, I think I'm right. Säntis is in Switzerland.

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

A snake?

[–]Centaurea 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

In 2016, the Democratic Party faced its most severe split in decades, when Bernie Sanders’s insurgent challenge to Hillary Clinton’s coronation gained surprising traction among primary voters disillusioned with the party’s long-ascendant neoliberal wing. Unlike in the Republican field, where Donald Trump rode roughshod over conventional standard-bearers, the Democratic establishment managed to edge out Sanders in a long war of attrition that left many of the Vermont socialist’s supporters embittered.

"War of attrition". That's an interesting way to say "rigging and cheating". It also implies that the corrupt, nefarious behavior during the 2016 Dem primary was mutually engaged in by both the Clinton-led DNC and the Sanders campaign.

[–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

the Democratic establishment managed to edge out Sanders in a long war of attrition

Super-delegates. They were called 'super-delegates, and their only purpose is to prevent any grassroots candidate from getting past the party establishment. It worked in the micro, failing in the macro.

Unlike in the Republican field, where Donald Trump rode roughshod over

No super-delegates. And then he won.

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And even ordinary delegates to the DNC have affiliations; most cycles, the teachers' unions rack up 10-11%, which is more representation than the state of California.

For obvious reasons, that isn't a thing at a Republican convention.

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Highly intelligent, terrible political instincts, zero gravitas, negative charisma, completely untrustworthy... yeah, we've seen this movie.

 

DeSantis partisans, like those of Warren in their time, seem to believe the winning political formula is to split the difference between the moderate center of the party and its “extreme” fringes.

But this is a misconception, because the real ideological extremism isn’t on the right or left.

On the contrary, both parties are dominated by an “extreme center,” to borrow the phrase of the left-wing British journalist Tariq Ali.

The Republican establishment’s devotion to tax cutting, entitlement slashing, and warmongering is anything but moderate, and the same goes for mainstream Democratic stances on a wide range of issues.

A self-proclaimed populist who seems eager to accommodate the extreme center is no populist at all—and will rightly be regarded with suspicion from all sides.

[–]shatabee5 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

A lot more rich people like Desantis than they did Warren, though.

Desantis is getting the treatment by the MSM. If they can sink Bernie, they can sink him. Their enormous efforts are making me think he isn't as bad as they say.

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Desantis is getting the treatment by the MSM.

They were pimping him pretty hard as a "reasonable" Trump alternative.

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There were also lots of articles calling him more dangerous than Trump, worse than Trump, Trump but smart, etc. Of course they said the same things about Cruz and Rubio at one point.

[–]shatabee5 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, but now that Trump is tied up with their legal persecution, they seem to be trying to make sure Desantis doesn't take off.

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think DeSantis ensured that himself when he walked back his initial position on Ukraine. That more than anything else is the biggest split between the GOP base and DeSantis donors, imo.