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[–]SudoBreakSandwich 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I bet that episode came with Spotify's customary "Warning, this is a one best episodes"

[–]stickdog[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

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Yesterday, I spent several hours reading the transcript of the 3-hour interview RFK, Jr. recently did with Joe Rogan. The conversation was fascinating. Any U.S. citizen interested in more detailed information on Kennedy’s thoughts can simply watch this interview (a link to the Rogan episode and a transcript are included in this article which summarizes the interview).

I particularly recommend the final paragraphs of the CHD article, where Kennedy talks about the mothers of autistic children who finally convinced him to look into a possible connection between vaccines and autism.

Here are highlights that jumped out to me after reading transcripts of the entire interview:

Kennedy said (again) that he's NOT running on the "vaccine issue" and only talks about vaccines when specifically asked a question about them by an interviewer.

However, he did say he’s not going to dodge a legitimate question when asked. He also said that he didn't plan on doing any more in-depth interviewers like this in the future, suggesting this conversation with Rogan should provide sufficient answers on why and how he got so interested in the vaccine issue … an intellectual quest which later informed his conviction that the entire public health establishment has become brazenly and shockingly corrupt and captured.

Kennedy said alarms went off when he had a phone conversation with Dr. Paul Offit about mercury in vaccines and caught this extremely-influential vaccine booster in an obvious lie. Kennedy also noted that this man said he would get back to him with specific scientific studies that backed up his vaccine autism point (that there was bad "mercury" and "safe" mercury). Kennedy said this revered scientist never did provide the promised study(ies).

Kennedy also recounts a similar conversation with Dr. Fauci, who told Kennedy that he would provide germane studies on some topic Kennedy had challenged Fauci on .... and Fauci never followed through.

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[–]SudoBreakSandwich 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Kennedy said (again) that he's NOT running on the "vaccine issue"

I knew it! He was anti vacks the whote time!

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

RFK Jr.'s experience with Offitt and Fauci fits the MO of the biggest vaccine pushers, they refuse to actually have an open, honest discussion with someone who disagrees with them so that the public can be better informed on the issues of concern and can make an informed decision. Witness the recent refusal of Hotez to debate RFK Jr., which I believe was discussed in this interview.

Related: in a recent discussion between the Duran and Robert Barnes, the subject of the 2024 elections and presidential candidates came up. Barnes is a right populist but a long friend of RFK Jr. and in another interview he said he had offered to help RFK's campaign. In the recent discussion he had this to say:

The only place RFK and I disagree is that like his father he's an idealist about the Dem Party and I'm less so, I think the institutional corruption will prove a very difficult obstacle. But I'm glad he's running, we'll see what happens, and he is right now the primary restraint on the Biden administration putting troops on the ground in Ukraine.

...anyone with a little bit of political pragmatism realizes the best way for Biden to even lose the nomination is to officially put American boots on the ground. When the Council of Foreign Relations' flagship publication, Foreign Affairs, is allowing people to write that we probably need to look for an exit strategy in Ukraine, that means they've lost everyone outside of the lunatics. Even a neocon or neoliberal who has any realism about them is recognizing it's not working and it's time to get out.

He said on Rogan his whole goal is to create a political movement in America that unites the populist left and the populist right on matters of public policy; that require complete reform of the entire governmental apparatus; remove the political hierarchy at the top of all our governmental agencies, including the national security establishment and the intelligence community. He quoted JFK about it being time to take the CIA, break it into pieces and disperse them to the wind.

He'll be educating an entirely new audience. Some people may be taken aback by his making anti-Putin comments or talking about Ukraine as though it was ever a humanitarian effort but they need to realize the people he'll be talking to in his audience. His main audience is the Democratic electorate, he's trying to sell peace in Ukraine to that audience but knows that audience was sold on Ukraine as a humanitarian effort to protect a vulnerable population from a big tyrant. He knows that audience will never like Putin because of their misperceptions about him due to Western propaganda. So rather than fight them on those issues, he'll try to get them to the same peace location, i.e., "destroying Ukrainian lives in the flower of their youth to do regime change in Russia for neocons is not a humanitarian mission or a practical goal."