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[–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

though cannot agree regarding anti-vaccine theories..

This isn't a theory, it's data!

[–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

That's part of a disinformation campaign led by highly funded anti-vax websites. Search:

japan excess deaths booster shots

Long before November 2021, the last booster shots were taken in other countries. In general, boosters were not necessary in November 2021. Japan did not conduct sufficient COVID studies of the causes of deaths throughout the COVID period and thereafter. It's thus not known at all if causes of death were related to COVID or indeed to booster shots.

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

The data from the Japanese Ministry of Health is just as damning:

https://twitter.com/You3_JP/status/1615011156741214208

Purple = "Covid" deaths

Green = non-"Covid" deaths

[–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

That's an opinion, not a fact. It's also wrong. Japan has a massive aging population. In 2020, 28.6% of Japan's population was aged 65 years old and over.

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

How is it an opinion? It's just numbers.

Aging population doesn't explain the sharp rise coinciding with the vaccination program, in contrast with no significant change in 2020, the year before the "vaccine".

[–]bootylicious 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

It's an opinion, by someone who made a graph to display that opinion. (I'm surprised I have to explain this.)

That opinion is that the distribution of booster shots, as well as deaths were somehow in similar peaks and troughs, which is impossible. Booster shots and deaths are not periodic, they're in broader trends that are not punctuated. Booster shots have been offered over a long 2 year period in Japan, without interrruptions. Deaths are also not interrupted.

Look at reliable sources for those broad trajectories of development (not OPINION), such as these:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1074732/japan-number-senility-diseases-deaths/

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/japan/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/580199/death-rate-in-japan/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/622984/number-of-suicides-per-100-000-inhabitants-japan-age/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1074868/japan-number-tuberculosis-deaths/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1074712/japan-number-heart-diseases-deaths/

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Also, regarding shots in Japan, people here have not been getting them at a constant rate. Instead people are getting them in conjunction with timed government recommendations and campaigns, which explains the unevenness.

[–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

timed government recommendations and campaigns

But the distribution is NOT immediate. Those 'timed' processes take months, so it's a lie to assume that there are any sharp peaks in boosters and deaths.

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's actually not a lie and perfectly reasonable. I'm not sure where you've gotten the impression that the "timed" processes take months. The central government makes an announcement and the local governments follow.

Furthermore, if you check Japan's "doses administered" numbers here for example, you'll see the same peaks and dips:

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

I live here actually, and I can tell you that the last vaccination voucher I received from city hall coincides exactly with the latest November peak in the graph. I actually took a picture of the voucher because I found it slightly shocking they would list only the minor side effects (Hello, informed consent anyone?). Also, the biggest dips coincide exactly with New Year's holidays, when most Japanese go back to their hometowns and just spend their time with family, not going out much at all. Lots of businesses (including vaccination centers) close during this period.

Edit: I had another look at the chart just to be sure and checked the two dips at the end of April '22 and middle of August '22. Both these periods again coincide with major national holidays where people take off from work several days to travel or go back to their hometown.

[–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not sure where you've gotten the impression that the "timed" processes take months.

Implementation

125.44 million people

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Did you look at the correct link? The one I posted has no peaks and troughs. It's just a simple rolling tally using government data. You don't even need to read their opinion. You can just look at the numbers, which speak for themselves:

https://twitter.com/You3_JP/status/1615011156741214208

Purple = "Covid" deaths

Green = non-"Covid" deaths

And I'm not sure it's a good idea to take statista or worldometer at face value either, but okay. The link I shared is data pulled from a government source. Are you saying that is also not reliable? I mean, I would agree that many government sources are in fact unreliable and often suppress data that makes them look bad. But despite that sort of scale-tipping, the results are still terrible. I can't check the Statista links without an account unfortunately, but even the worldometer link shows remarkable increases in cases and deaths coinciding with the vaccine rollout.

[–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

This is what I'm resonding to: https://imgur.com/ou0wFIb

Your Twitter link is also unsupported by a reliable resource. Both you and FThumb are spreading misinformaiton.

You should use reliable sources. Statistica and Worldometers are reliable.

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Right, so you responded to my link incorrectly then.

Your Twitter link is also unsupported by a reliable resource.

As I stated already, it's government data. You can check the URL embedded in the image. Are you saying Japan's Ministry of Health data is an unreliable source?

Statistica and Worldometers are reliable.

Worldometers is showing a massive rise in cases and deaths for Japan from 2021 onward (after rollout), compared to relatively little movement in 2020 (pre-rollout).

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