RFK Jr. pledges to gut agencies that regulate vaccines and order the DOJ to investigate medical journals if he becomes president

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[–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

That's an opinion, not a fact. It's also wrong. Japan has a massive aging population. In 2020, 28.6% of Japan's population was aged 65 years old and over.

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

How is it an opinion? It's just numbers.

Aging population doesn't explain the sharp rise coinciding with the vaccination program, in contrast with no significant change in 2020, the year before the "vaccine".

[–]bootylicious 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

It's an opinion, by someone who made a graph to display that opinion. (I'm surprised I have to explain this.)

That opinion is that the distribution of booster shots, as well as deaths were somehow in similar peaks and troughs, which is impossible. Booster shots and deaths are not periodic, they're in broader trends that are not punctuated. Booster shots have been offered over a long 2 year period in Japan, without interrruptions. Deaths are also not interrupted.

Look at reliable sources for those broad trajectories of development (not OPINION), such as these:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1074732/japan-number-senility-diseases-deaths/

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/japan/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/580199/death-rate-in-japan/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/622984/number-of-suicides-per-100-000-inhabitants-japan-age/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1074868/japan-number-tuberculosis-deaths/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1074712/japan-number-heart-diseases-deaths/

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Also, regarding shots in Japan, people here have not been getting them at a constant rate. Instead people are getting them in conjunction with timed government recommendations and campaigns, which explains the unevenness.

[–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

timed government recommendations and campaigns

But the distribution is NOT immediate. Those 'timed' processes take months, so it's a lie to assume that there are any sharp peaks in boosters and deaths.

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's actually not a lie and perfectly reasonable. I'm not sure where you've gotten the impression that the "timed" processes take months. The central government makes an announcement and the local governments follow.

Furthermore, if you check Japan's "doses administered" numbers here for example, you'll see the same peaks and dips:

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

I live here actually, and I can tell you that the last vaccination voucher I received from city hall coincides exactly with the latest November peak in the graph. I actually took a picture of the voucher because I found it slightly shocking they would list only the minor side effects (Hello, informed consent anyone?). Also, the biggest dips coincide exactly with New Year's holidays, when most Japanese go back to their hometowns and just spend their time with family, not going out much at all. Lots of businesses (including vaccination centers) close during this period.

Edit: I had another look at the chart just to be sure and checked the two dips at the end of April '22 and middle of August '22. Both these periods again coincide with major national holidays where people take off from work several days to travel or go back to their hometown.

[–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not sure where you've gotten the impression that the "timed" processes take months.

Implementation

125.44 million people

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

United States: 300+ million people→ sames types of peaks and dips

Germany: 80+ million → same thing

I live here actually, and I can tell you that the last vaccination voucher I received from city hall coincides exactly with the latest November peak in the graph. I actually took a picture of the voucher because I found it slightly shocking they would list only the minor side effects (Hello, informed consent anyone?). Also, the biggest dips coincide exactly with New Year's holidays, when most Japanese go back to their hometowns and just spend their time with family, not going out much at all. Lots of businesses (including vaccination centers) close during this period.

Edit: I had another look at the chart just to be sure and checked the two dips at the end of April '22 and middle of August '22. Both these periods again coincide with major national holidays where people take off from work several days to travel or go back to their hometown.

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[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Did you look at the correct link? The one I posted has no peaks and troughs. It's just a simple rolling tally using government data. You don't even need to read their opinion. You can just look at the numbers, which speak for themselves:

https://twitter.com/You3_JP/status/1615011156741214208

Purple = "Covid" deaths

Green = non-"Covid" deaths

And I'm not sure it's a good idea to take statista or worldometer at face value either, but okay. The link I shared is data pulled from a government source. Are you saying that is also not reliable? I mean, I would agree that many government sources are in fact unreliable and often suppress data that makes them look bad. But despite that sort of scale-tipping, the results are still terrible. I can't check the Statista links without an account unfortunately, but even the worldometer link shows remarkable increases in cases and deaths coinciding with the vaccine rollout.

[–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

This is what I'm resonding to: https://imgur.com/ou0wFIb

Your Twitter link is also unsupported by a reliable resource. Both you and FThumb are spreading misinformaiton.

You should use reliable sources. Statistica and Worldometers are reliable.

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Right, so you responded to my link incorrectly then.

Your Twitter link is also unsupported by a reliable resource.

As I stated already, it's government data. You can check the URL embedded in the image. Are you saying Japan's Ministry of Health data is an unreliable source?

Statistica and Worldometers are reliable.

Worldometers is showing a massive rise in cases and deaths for Japan from 2021 onward (after rollout), compared to relatively little movement in 2020 (pre-rollout).

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    [–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Anyone can put a URL at the bottom of a graph. I am unable cut and pasted that link into a browser. There's no reason to trust a graph that's unlinked. Merely link to the government data.

    Here you go:

    If you search: COVID deaths , you'll discover that Japan dis not in 2020 or 2021 properly record the causes of most deaths, or if they were COVID-related. There are many complaints about this online. Because 1/3rd of the population is retired - almost all of them Baby Boomers - it's not surprising that death rates will continue to increase. This too is in the news, because of the very low birth rate in recent years.

    That explanation doesn't work. The graph is all-cause mortality, which includes other things you listed like TB, suicide, heart disease, etc (a non-insignificant portion of which was vaccine-induced). You point out alleged discrepancy between 2020 and 2021. But regardless how you record it, there is no significant change in mortality for 2020 and even pre-2020, and there are more all-cause deaths post-rollout in 2021 and beyond. 2022 and 2023 (not pictured because the graph is a little old). You cannot explain this abnormal rise with older generation deaths magically clumping together post rollout. Retirees do not all come together and say, "Let's all sing kumbayah through the deadlier initial variants, and time it so we all keel over coincidentally after getting vaccinated when the weaker variants becomes more dominant."

    By the way, if you investigate further, you may discover that many of the victims here who have their deaths recorded as vaccine-induced by their primary physician, are also having the recorded cause of death overruled by the gov't boards.

    If you search: COVID deaths , you'll discover that Japan dis not in 2020 or 2021 properly record the causes of most deaths, or if they were COVID-related. There are many complaints about this online.

    Please share some links.

    [–]InumaGaming Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Please share some links.

    He won't do that. He'll argue that he's right before he shares a link.

    [–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Gotta think positive! :)