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[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

FWIW, upon looking back at the limited interaction I had with the user in question, he expressed bigoted comments in 2 of 3 replies to me (not directed toward any particular user), but was "normal" in the third (although wrong in my opinion), and at least on-topic in all 3.

As far as choices are concerned, I feel like:

  • ① having the discussion you want to have
  • ② leaving the accusations there or engaging with that person

are not mutually exclusive. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a block feature implemented on Saidit yet, but we can always just scroll past (within reason).

I do think you make a fair point regarding Cost of Discussion though. Like I said earlier, I agree with measures being taken for forum scrolling/blatant trolling.

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm blind and a creature of habit. Sorry!

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Just because there is a button does not mean the button works.
(The "close doors" button in an elevator is an example)

In this case that one apparently does [verification needed], but I recently found that the "traffic stats of a sub" button does not.

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

verification needed

Works for me.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Sweet! Thanks!

Just for that extra bit of verification, you do not see any of their comments?
(no screenshot needed, just a yes or no will do)

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nope, cant see them and when trying to, you get "account blocked."

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Cool! Thanks again.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

are not mutually exclusive.

Can you do both at the same moment, or do you have to choose which would be the more important one to do first?

You can do one and then the other, but now you have two things to do instead of the one. Increased cost.

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm willing to pay that cost, and I believe there are potential long-term benefits to doing so. But again, I can only encourage others and ultimately speak only for myself.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm willing to pay that cost, and I believe there are potential long-term benefits to doing so.

Most people would be willing to. But they would be paying it.

You know, I don't think that we're arguing here....

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I mean, I figured we were just having a good ol' conversation. I was enjoying it at least. (Sorry, that was prolly kinda creepy...)

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I figured we were just having a good ol' conversation.

Sometimes it skirts the edge between the two. Thought it was worth pointing out.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a block feature implemented on Saidit yet

Really??? You mean the "block user" button under each comment isn't wired up to anything?
If that's true, it's quite a punch line to a different part of this silly bit of drama that's been going on....

I do think you make a fair point regarding Cost of Discussion though.

That's the reason that some refer to it as the Turtle Tax.

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Whoops, I've just gotten so used to the popup window when you hover over a username (on Reddit) that I never noticed the link below. Thanks! :D

Although, that makes me feel like the turtle tax is even less needed than before...

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Although, that makes me feel like the turtle tax is even less needed than before...

Have you noticed how little it has been needed today, simply because it exists?
It's a little paradoxical... The fact that it can be used lessens the need for it to be used.

There's something that I wrote up in 2016. If Reddit hadn't messed up the API, I could easily retrieve it.

Ironically, if Reddit hadn't messed up the API, I wouldn't need to retrieve it.


Found it anyway! From August 2016:

Whenever there are three or more gathered together, rude and nasty people will arrive. The question is, what do you do with them?

Do you... tell them to leave? Or do you make them stand in the corner and juggle fish if they want to continue being rude and nasty? At least with the latter, they are somewhat entertaining.

Sounds kinda silly, until you figure one more thing in... what if there is a group of people who consider it a prize to be told to leave?

"No prize for you -- start juggling, or decide on your own to go somewhere else."

Then when the juggler returns home, prizeless, hands smelling of fish...

There is the possibility that the others there might try to find a less-juggly place to be annoying.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Does that mean that the "block button" does work?
I've never had reason, nor do I anticipate a reason, to ever touch it.

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not sure actually. I assume so? I've only ever used the Reddit one (lots of obvious trolls from Team Pharma).

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Through a side convo, I got it verified. Yes, the block button here works.

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It does, but it can be annoying when you can't see what someone is responding to sometimes.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it can be annoying when you can't see what someone is responding to sometimes.

Well, at least it doesn't collapse the whole subthread and hide the responses.
In here, sometimes the responses to that which you would block are the best part.