This sub has the most draconian censorship on the internet. I like turtles.

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[–]bootylicious 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

None of that has anything to do with this discussion.

Yes it does: "This sub has the most draconian censorship on the internet. I like turtles." IE. WatB can't easily adjust to the /r/all requirements

It's you venting about your situation and trying to have Way people conform to Saidit when they do things differently.

Nothing in my comments can be called 'venting', not in the least. Nor did I tell anyone to conform to anything. I just noted that it would be easy to get onto /r/all . That's it. No skin off my nose.

You're the one coming here to tell us to comply with the rules. Same with Larry the e-peen or Zapped yelling about us instead of sitting down with us to discuss what we do and why and how we can all make this place better.

See my previous comment. Larry is an idiot and Zapped doesn't have much skin in the game. The only one to contact for /r/all is magnora7 . WatB's unfamiliarity with Saidit has resuled in WatB getting kicked off /r/all. I PMed penelopepnortney to let her know I can offer a strategy that would likely work, and I introduced penelopepnortney to magnora7. I have no other interest or role. I am just finding this interesting.

You don't have to like the Turtle Tax, but don't take the words of a 4chan edgelord as gospel when coming to us when we have moderation topics in our sidebar.

Doesn't matter what I think of anything, nor do I know anything about 4chan, other than its existence.

Finally, we're used to being a far larger community than anything on Saidit.

OK...

Before it was closed down, we had 90000 subscribed to the Reddit sub and affiliates had successful growth in their respective subs that we hadn't touched.

90k, most of whom had been subscribed at an earlier time, especially when it was ACTUALLY a sub related to Bernie's politics, and before it turned into a misinformation-sharing site for the right. Saidit has assumulated 40k subscribers, 99% of which are gone now. Saiditors and WatB users can be difficult to get along with, apparently.

Some of us practice diplomacy and take it seriously.

Good

If what you want to do is come to us with conformity, you might as well try to herd cats.

I've not mentioned anything related to conformity. Per the present topic, it's WatB that wants Saiditors to conform to shadowbans on its sub, which got it kicked off /r/all because shadowband are problematic on several levels. There is LESS conformity in /r/all.

But if you want to stay to see us grow, it's up to you. If not, that's your choice.

I'm not important, nor is this about me. I am not a typical Saiditor or WatB user by any stretch of the imagination. I merely like to see how groups are organized and function. I am here for alternative discussions. That's all. I've been at Reddit for 15 years, and Saidit for almost 3 years.

We'll still follow The Way.

Do consider how much 'The Way' at WatB is entirely unrelated to anything Bernie has worked for (for the 99%) his entire career. WatB is primarily supporting the 1%s misinformation propaganda. This is why it's a perfect fit for Saidit. No, it doesn't have to 'conform' to rigid rules. Instead, it has to follow the usual Saidit guidelines like the rest of us, which are not that rigid, nor are admins and mods doing much to restrict speech (unless you call for violance or share porn). That's all I'm saying.

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

"This sub has the most draconian censorship on the internet. I like turtles."

Sudo is well known in our community for satire. Congratulations for falling for it.

Nothing in my comments can be called 'venting', not in the least

So you're not bothering to think about anyting in this thread.... Never mind--

This shows you're only thinking about what you said, not my responses.

For the life of me, I don't understand how being banned is somehow a sense of pride and accomplishment but it makes the point you want us to conform more than anything else.

Just do it this way, it's easier.

That's what you're saying.

See my previous comment. Larry is an idiot and Zapped doesn't have much skin in the game. The only one to contact for /r/all is magnora7 . WatB's unfamiliarity with Saidit has resuled in WatB getting kicked off /r/all

We took ourselves off. So get your facts straight.

90k, most of whom had been subscribed at an earlier time, especially when it was ACTUALLY a sub related to Bernie's politics, and before it turned into a misinformation-sharing site for the right.

You're a damn liar. Kindly don't try to speak for a community you weren't a part of and didn't watch out grow for years which is the point you're missing.

Just like you missed the fact that this sub has been around for 5 and we grew it without this weird notion it was somehow different when it's been a part of Saidit just as long.

Do consider how much 'The Way' at WatB is entirely unrelated to anything Bernie has worked for (for the 99%) his entire career.

Yeah... We went through 2016 and 2020 calling that out.

sigh

Anyway... I'm moving on. Looks like you came to the same rigid notions and ignored what was stated to come to the same stale conclusions as before.

You do you.

[–]bootylicious 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sudo is well known in our community for satire. Congratulations for falling for it.

So visitors to WatB should be warned that its posts are not on good faith? Got it.

This shows you're only thinking about what you said, not my responses.

Makes no sense. I responded to all of your points.

For the life of me, I don't understand how being banned is somehow a sense of pride and accomplishment but it makes the point you want us to conform more than anything else.

Also makes no sense. No one is discussing pride.

That's what you're saying.

No

We took ourselves off. So get your facts straight.

How would anyone on Saidit or WatB know that? Most on Saidit seem to assume in the comments that magnora removed WatB from /r/all.

You're a damn liar. Kindly don't try to speak for a community you weren't a part of and didn't watch out grow for years which is the point you're missing.

I've been a Bernie supporter and on WatB (Reddit) since the beginning. I saw the transition from Bernie supporters to the sub overrun by misinformation that serves the right wing. That's the change in 'The Way' you talk about it, and many on Reddit have discussed it. It's been bloody obvious. 95% of your orignal subsribers are long gone, just as a similar percentage are no longer at Saidit. That's also very easy to understand.

Just like you missed the fact that this sub has been around for 5 and we grew it without this weird notion it was somehow different when it's been a part of Saidit just as long.

I didn't miss anything. It's obvious WatB doesn't want to admit to it that's been conned by the anti-democracy, anti-government, anti-science, anti-everyting misinformation and disinformation that's helping the .01% get rich while you don't vote for electable candidates. One of your members noted they're voting Green party, for example. GOP want you to divide the Democrat vote. Green party only have seats in Parliamentary governments.

Yeah... We went through 2016 and 2020 calling that out.

Good - then you know the name of the sub is a hijacking of Bernie's name for the sake of highly paid misinformation propaganda - and thus WatB is entirely unrelated to anything Bernie has worked for (for the 99%) his entire career.

Anyway... I'm moving on. Looks like you came to the same rigid notions and ignored what was stated to come to the same stale conclusions as before.

Doesn't make sense. 'Rigid' does not desribe my arguments that WatB should be less rigid.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Just do it this way, it's easier.

Otherwise known as "It doesn't matter, so do it my way."

None of them seem to notice the parallels. Wouldn't it just be easier for The Person In Question to simply say "I like turtles" than to have all this arguing about it?

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    [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    THASS de one!!