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[–]risistill me 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Whatever your opinion of the outcome of the case, noting that this was a school case is relevant.

Although the SCOTUS has said that freedom of speech exists within public schools, it has also said that the freedom of speech within public schools is more limited than the general rule.

[–]zyxzevn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is basic science!

[–]hfxB0oyA 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

All speech should be protected. BUT: you should be ready to get a bloody nose over it.

[–]P-38lightning 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

[–]unfancy_catsup 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

The person bloodying your nose over your free expression should be ready to face battery charges.

[–]hfxB0oyA 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes. Everybody down the line should be prepared for consequences, is my point. No shields for nobody. No "protected classes".

[–]unfancy_catsup 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Disagree with the notion of "consequences." The term "consequences" is always used as a threat to chill free expression e.g. "You have freedom of speech, but not freedom from consequences."

[–]risistill me 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Freedom of speech does not mean agreement by "listeners." You might get verbal push back, boycotts or whatever. But speaking should not result in any adverse government action, either--censorship, prison, fines, etc. It also does not prevent anyone from punching, but the punching is punishable.

[–]BerryBoy1969It's not red vs. blue - It's capital vs. you 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's no small wonder that the rest of the world is unifying en masse to protect themselves from the batshit crazy "values" the trained idiots of the rules based international order embrace so willingly.

We're the empty vessels who vote for decency, in order to signal the virtues we wish we had as a society of systems dependent "individuals" in these Corporate States of America.

It's what makes us exceptional...

[–]risistill me 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know you're being sarcastic. I'mma chime in without sarcasm.

Joe running for re-election is decency on the ballot. ok

Joe gropes and sniffs minor and adult females and appears nude before female Secret Service agents. Jill's first husband claims that she and Joe had an affair that broke up the marriage. (The bidens deny it, but I wouldn't expect them to admit it.) Happens a lot nowadays, but most participants don't call it decency.

We all know about Hunter's drugs and tax evasion. We also have assorted Bidens getting rich because of Joe's government positions.

And that's just what's public.

[–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well here we are now. All speech except political speech is protected by the Constitution.

[–]risistill me 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Except that almost everything is political anymore. Things that should be for parents or scientists or doctors or individuals or pastors or whomever--all political these days.

Because when it comes to finances, wars, etc. we have a uniparty. So, each of our two oldest, largest and most corrupt of our political seeks to distinguish itself from the other on issues that should be none of their business. Hence, everything has become political, whether it should be or not.

[–]Tom_BombadilNational status = freedom 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

All speech except political speech is protected by the Constitution.

Technically, US citizens have civil rights under USC title 42. Their rights are not protected by the Constitution.

US citizens do not have constitutional protections, of God-given rights.

The civil rights movement was actually about assigning civil rights to all Americans, and not about Constitutional protections for 14th amendment citizens.

When this political/legal fact is understood, the gun grabs, and illegal detention, and seemingly illegal mandates begin to make legal sense.

This 14th amendment of political status being assigned at birth occurred after involuntary servitude was abolished in the 13th amendment.

"Voluntary servitude" is legal by omission. It's not illegal. It was the plan from the start.

They had to lay the servitude tracks, before the brought in the train.

Being a 14th amendment citizen is literally "voluntary servitude". It's political status assigned at birth. Feudal law. "And subject to the jurisdiction thereof".
Citizens are subjects. Some are not subjects. They are called 'nationals'.
As in, the Washington 'Nationals' baseball team, and mascot. Hidden in plain sight.

14th amendment citizenship is an extra constitutional political status. Separate, but equal, etc.

The most tangible benefit of opting out of voluntary servitude is you no longer owe an income tax.
Free people aren't taxed like the feudal serfs, who owe ~25% to the US Treasury bond holders.

US treasury bonds which collateralize the future incomes of US citizens in voluntary bondage.
A fact of reality.

The US state dept was the first dept that was taken over by the Fed after the fraudulent collapse of the bond market in 1933. The State dept issues passports, and they are responsible for knowing/assigning political status to Americans.

It's easy to opt out of voluntary servitude.
Too easy to believe for most people.
Simply notify the Lord of the Manor (US Secretary of State) of your intention to be a national, and not a citizen.
Submit it in affidavit form, so it's admissable in court.

That's the basics.

[–]kingsmegLiberté, égalité, fraternité 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The rest of the world is laughing and/or horrified.

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The Germans are probably particularly amused, since German has three genders. The assignment of gender to nouns is apparently random: all Dogs are male, all Cats are female, and all Guinea Pigs are neuter, which is pretty funny if you've ever accidentally put two guinea pigs in the same cage.

[–]kingsmegLiberté, égalité, fraternité 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Pretty sure the T-shirt was referring to biology, not language.

I understand that some cultures had accepted categories for '2-spirit' people or the like, for people of one sex with characteristics or behaviors of the other. But they were understood to be a mix of the existing 2 sexes, not something completely other. And virtually all of the LGBTQ-whatever culture today still define themselves as some combination of the 2 sexes. A trans person will be male-to-female or female-to-male, not m/f-to-'USB-C' or some 'other'.

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I guess that judge took his Latin classes seriously :-)

[–]Super_Soviet_Gundam[S] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

When will the "Create you own gender" fad finally DIAF?

[–]Maniak🥃😾 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

When democrats stop being able to fundraise off of it and to use it to keep their sheep fighting among themselves?

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There's other profiteers as well: Sex Reassignment Surgery Market Revenue Will Cross USD 968 Million by 2024: Global Market Insights, Inc.. Saw another stat from Acumen Research that it's projected to be $3.2 billion by 2032.

[–]Maniak🥃😾 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Wanna bet that a non-negligible portion of that money will somehow make its way into political "donations", and most likely already has?

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No doubt, it's how the grift works.