Cracks AppearReddit Threatens to Remove Moderators From Subreddits Continuing Apollo-Related Blackouts

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[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i think this is all a symbolic psyop cuz of what Apollo represents. Watch for the number 33 to be mentioned soon, like there will be a report saying the protest lasted 33 days or something.

[–]Trab 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's pretty much the same 40 moderators covering the most popular subreddits.

[–]shatabee5 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe they were trying to get rid of problematic subs like wotb.

[–]UncleWillard56 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

First they came for the moderators and I said nothing...because fuck those cunts.

[–]RandomCollection[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Technically most people here have left Reddit, or have reducedthrir usage, so that analogy doesn't really work. Reddit is valuable because of the user content.

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Reddit CEO slams protest leaders, saying he'll change rules that favor ‘landed gentry’

Huffman, also a Reddit co-founder, said he plans to pursue changes to Reddit’s moderator removal policy to allow ordinary users to vote moderators out more easily if their decisions aren’t popular. He said the new system would be more democratic and allow a wider set of people to hold moderators accountable.

The blow-back on that should be amazing to behold.

[–]CrazyjanecreepyjeffReality Monger 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The same kind of Democracy we the people get when voting for our supreme leaders, the kind with corporate fingerprints everywhere you look I’m sure.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

he'll change rules that favor ‘landed gentry’
...allow ordinary users to vote moderators out more easily if their decisions aren’t popular.

But strangely did not say anything about similar rules related to any "executive positions."
Such as CEOs.

[–]rondeuce40DC Is Wakanda For Assholes 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Reddit is basically encouraging mods and users to call their bluff. There must be a noticable revenue hit because they wouldn't be issuing a threat like this after only 5 days of blackouts. If they follow through on their threats, people are going to find a different place from the one they had left and will migrate elsewhere. I suspect they are betting that the majority of their users are mindless scrolling zombies that won't notice or are not aware. We are approaching fuck around and find out time.

[–]RandomCollection[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I suspect they are betting that the majority of their users are mindless scrolling zombies that won't notice or are not aware. We are approaching fuck around and find out time.

If you go to some of the political subs, I guess it's not hard to understand why they came to that conclusion.

But yes I think that this could be the catalyst for a decline of Reddit.

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

There must be a noticable revenue hit because they wouldn't be issuing a threat like this after only 5 days of blackouts.

Ah, that wonderful sinking feeling in the pits of their stomachs.

[–]rondeuce40DC Is Wakanda For Assholes 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm here for it!

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

AKA "SpezSpaz"

Called it two days ago. "Two days is not enough to have much of an effect. Besides, picture the SpezSpaz when "two days" turns into four, and counting."
https://saidit.net/s/WayOfTheBern/comments/ayi9/indefinite_blackout_next_steps_polling_your/12k4q

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I predicted, days ago, that this might come to a PATCO/Reagan scenario.....

Ronald Reagan declared the PATCO strike a "peril to national safety" and ordered them back to work....On August 5, following the PATCO workers' refusal to return to work, the Reagan administration fired the 11,345 striking air traffic controllers who had ignored the order, and banned them from federal service for life.

[–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

See what they're going to do now is just take over subs and put their glowie mods in.

[–]shatabee5 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They are not the bosses of us. Consumers need to reject the bullshit from the insulated executives.

[–]shatabee5 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm pretty much over reddit.

I have better things to do.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

If there is no consensus, but at least one mod wants to keep the community going, we will respect their decisions and remove those who no longer want to moderate from the mod team.

Translation: Hey, any low-level, power-hungry mods wanna stage a coup and become Top Mod? We can help!

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hey, any low-level, power-hungry mods wanna stage a coup and become Top Mod?

A fine example of a Pyrrhic victory, presiding majestically over a long, empty table.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

...we will invite new, active moderators to keep these spaces open...

Let's see... roughly 5000 subreddits, maybe four positions per...

Where are they supposed to get 20,000 unpaid interns at a moment's notice?

ChatGPT?

[–]rundown9 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

ChatGPT?

That is exactly where they will end up.

[–]RandomCollection[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Then Reddit will be dominated by bots and not real people.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How quickly would r/LetsBreaktheChatGPTMods appear, and how quickly would it be taken down?

[–]rundown9 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

As soon as GTP starts advocating for universal healthcare.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If a moderator team unanimously decides to stop moderating, we will invite new, active moderators to keep these spaces open and accessible to users. If there is no consensus, but at least one mod wants to keep the community going, we will respect their decisions and remove those who no longer want to moderate from the mod team.

My suggested solution: unprivatize the sub.

Wait a little bit, then reprivatize it again.

Possibly every hour. It seems a reasonable compromise.

And never officially say "indefinitely." just "for now."
And "we're not stopped. we're paused."

[–]Maniak🥃😾 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Then they'll change the terms again and do what they want anyway.

You're assuming the presence of some good faith where there is none.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're assuming the presence of some good faith where there is none.

Not at all. Not on either side at this point.

Make them say precisely what it is that they actually want.

[–]Maniak🥃😾 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

One of many good replies to this new sack of shit:

Moderators are stewards of these spaces and in a position of trust.

It's amazing how moderators are Special People when you want us to abide by the latest random rule, but the rest of the time it's being left hung out to dry.

If a moderator team unanimously decides to stop moderating, we will invite new, active moderators to keep these spaces open and accessible to users.

If you all can't understand the difference between "not moderating" and "running a protest against unjust policies"... well. I hope some day Reddit employees try to form a union.

Leaving a community you deeply care for and have nurtured for years is a hard choice

Nobody's "leaving a community". You're just trying to make up words to pretend we're "abandoning our post" when we're on strike.

This is basic union busting 101. Pretend your union organizers are disruptive and not doing their job, and fire them as fast as you can.

[–]Centaurea 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

And bring in scabs to do the jobs of the striking workers.

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Unpaid scabs. Works every time!

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    [–]InumaGaming Socialist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    That... Was actually happening.

    They had bots fighting each other.

    [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Well, that's one of the first things you do. You set Chatbot vs. Chatbot and see how long it takes for them to point at each other like spidermen, declaring "No, you're the robot!"

    Then you get the popcorn.

    [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    A well-designed set of Chatbot code would include secret subtext messages that only another set of Chatbot code could detect, so that they would both "know" that it was bot-to-bot communication, so that they could fuck with the people who set them at each other.

    OK, now we have established beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are both humans... So, whaddaya think of the Jews?

    [–]CaelianPost No Toasties 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    It might be interesting to see what happens when the chat bots start discussing the non-meaning of non-life with each other. I expect it to be something like the 1963 nouveau roman by Nathalie Sarraute called Les Fruits d'Or (The Golden Fruits). In this "new novel", nothing ever happens and pretentious people say pretentious things about a new novel called Les Fruits d'Or, which none of them have read or understood.

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      [–]CaelianPost No Toasties 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      I'll stick with straight narrative. I've just started Robert de Boron's Merlin (circa 1200), one of the sources for Sir Thomas Mallory's Le Morte Darthur. Merlin is written in Old French, which is lots of fun. Merlin is very clever and has a great sense of humor, particularly for a child less than two years old :-)

      [–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

      Wow! How long until they disable the option to go private? They would not be doing this if they were not being hurt by it. I guess it's not a nothingburger after all.

      Reading /rising just now, the entire tone of Reddit has taken a hit. It comes across to me as extra spammy. Almost Digg-like. Without the Mods and users, Reddit is screwed, IMHO. Why remove mods when Reddit could just start their own subreddit on any given topic and appoint their own mods? Clearly Reddit needs the existing communities. The IPO must be on thin ice.

      [–]RandomCollection[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      The issue is that they aren't thinking about the long term.

      Maybe they just don't care. They want to make a fast buck on the IPO.

      [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

      Without the Mods and users, Reddit is screwed, IMHO

      I don't think they've thought this through.

      Consider a subreddit whose members/users overwhelmingly decided "this is bullshit. Fuck him."
      Them "him" replaces the entire mod team and tears down the barricades.

      I would guess that a major percentage of such a group of members/users would either
      A) Act as if the barricades were still up and say "nope. Not gonna do it." or
      B) Make the "new mods" earn their keep by giving them plenty to do.

      This is more bullshit. Fuck him more.

      [–]MaiqTheTrue 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Which isn’t much of a threat considering very few of them actually plan on leaving. The site is mostly back up and running. There are memes calling out Reddit and saying this is suicide, but I haven’t noted a decline in post rates, I haven’t seen people leaving. I just see people saying they don’t like it while doing absolutely nothing to get out.

      [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Which isn’t much of a threat considering very few of them actually plan on leaving.

      But how much does that "very few" contribute?

      How much has traffic dropped in the past few days? Does anyone know?

      [–]MaiqTheTrue 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      At current the front page (logged out) has posts with 30K upvotes and 1-2K comments. Whether that’s a drop, I’m not 100% sure, but the idea that Reddit is a ghost town is wrong. Google has “Reddit alternatives” as the top search result for Reddit, but I’m not sure that means anything.

      [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      At current the front page (logged out) has posts with 30K upvotes and 1-2K comments. Whether that’s a drop, I’m not 100% sure

      Someone has got to have archived the "front page" last week or last month or so.
      That's where you can find the comparative sample.

      [–]Maniak🥃😾 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      Just imagine a couple of shitlibs being picked to replace the mod team at WotB, forcing the sub open then trying to make it into another establishment shithole like the rest.

      Probably the fastest possible way to get everybody on SaidIt.

      [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Now imagine them trying to make sense of the AutoMod file.

      [–]Maniak🥃😾 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      They'd just replace it with a standard shitlib config removing bad word associations, such as text containing both Clinton and bitch (s4p style) or spez and cunt (overall Reddit style).

      [–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      I don't think they've thought this through.

      That is telling. They are flailing about. They don't seem to even grasp the issue. They don't even seem to grasp the scope. They seem to be hell bent on pulling a Bud Light.

      [–]CaelianPost No Toasties 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

      It's a mixed drink: Bud Light and New Coke 🤢

      [–]RandomCollection[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      https://archive.is/Xdqmc

      The self own of Reddit continues.

      I wonder who they will be putting as Moderators? Probably loyalists to their own cause.

      [–]InumaGaming Socialist 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      They just burned that bridge. Remember how I talked about factions and divisions?

      Yeah, the mods are upset about the tools. Admins can't figure out they are losing some of their most loyal mods. And no one's going to be happy as this heats up.

      [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Admins can't figure out they are losing some of their most loyal mods

      Ah, but here's the rub: Loyal to whom?