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[–]Vulptex 15 insightful - 6 fun15 insightful - 5 fun16 insightful - 6 fun -  (4 children)

Honestly, good. As much as I hate socialism, it's good to have more diversity of opinions. 99% of the people here before this are one of the same four things: libertarians, fascists, TERFs, and religious nuts. It gets boring in an echo-chamber, even if it's one I agree with, and it's not good intellectually; it stifles quality discussion. And there's just not enough people on this site in general either.

Besides, Bernie Bros imo are usually honest people, only misguided. The rest of the DNC is all literal tankies who want to turn America into North Korea.

[–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

You may not like socialism but it already won. Sorry!

[–]risistill me 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

And I missed it?

And here I thought I was keeping up.

(In case you haven't guessed, this is redditrisi.)

[–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Welcome!

Apparently we all missed it. Every mode of production carries within it the seeds of its own destruction. For capitalism, the need for all these private (sovereign) individuals to coordinate their production efforts is too great and they are forced to cooperate. Human beings are social creatures after all.

This of course inevitably ends up in monopolies; the contradiction is, these monopolies are still in private hands.

To put it another way, if the government simply nationalized the internet, the electricity, the railways, the oil, the trees, and the water, who would even notice? Your day-to-day wouldn't change at all.

The revolution in the forces of production has already occurred.

[–]risistill me 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Welcome!

Thank you.

No government and/or worker ownership and control of (all) means of production = neither socialism nor revolution. ym obviously varies.