1984 vs. Blade Runner vs. Star Trek

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[–]Mnemonic 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Star Trek Enterprise deals with the transitional period, political infighting (TNG also has a Federation infight episode as does DS9), other races with 'money', luxury. In Enterprise the family of the navigator are freighter workers etc.

Only in TOS it can be somewhat presumed to be a communist utopia.

One of the main things is, The Federation has (somehow) listened and 'fixed' the critiques on capitalism. For Americans critique on capitalism somehow equals commu/social/Marx-ism(s).

but quite literally not unless the world becomes severely depopulated and some kind of... one world government were to take control and "re-educate" the survivors into a new way of being human.

This happend in the ST universe.. There was the war with Khan, the genetic enhanced humans (TOS, TOS movie, Enterprise and the shitty reboot movie deal with this). There was a Global nuclear war and after that First contact with the Vulcans was made [See the Movie 'First Contact' from the TNG line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_First_Contact {One of the, if not THE, best Star Trek movie}].

Step up your Trek game!

[–]Vigte 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

This happend in the ST universe.. There was the war with Khan, the genetic enhanced humans (TOS, TOS movie, Enterprise and the shitty reboot movie deal with this). There was a Global nuclear war and after that First contact with the Vulcans was made

Exactly my point! This kind of shift in society can only be seen through great suffering. The ends do not justify the means however and such a thing is to be avoided - especially since we know no intelligent people are waiting in the wings to develop what we see in this picture - rather, they intend something else.

Don't get me wrong, it's a fine idea - but it's not for us and if we set it as an end-goal there's only two things that can happen: failure or success - neither of which is desirable (as success requires the reset button on the collective human psyche and failure is... well failure.).

We as the people alive now need to focus on the bad shit and prevent it from happening. I'm not down with genetic war with Kahn and shit just so we can get to fly around in space gobbunism.

[–]Mnemonic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Earth:Final Conflict suits this narrative.

Aliens who 'help' us (humanity) get better but they also have their own agenda and black ops going on.

Political intrigue including presidential rigging of elections and all, but the acting isn't on par with Star trek productions.

Edit: Thanks for making me think of this serie, I still have to watch the last season I just found out about :)

[–]Vigte 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Or... It can't happen here... I mean "V"

I'll check out Final Conflict now though, thanks for the suggestion!

I just don't think aliens are coming (not unless they are part of blue beam). It's another false saviour meant to quiet the anger while they get the final pieces in place.