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[–]xoenix[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

These kids are saying the litterbox rumours are true. How much longer til "litterboxes for furries in school is a Good Thing."

Interesting thread on why Utah of all places is in so deep with gender woo.

Edit: Here's a counter-story. The furry/litterboxes in schools may yet remain an urban legend.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I've got my own theory on this. Came after I heard some older relatives freaking out about a year or two back about the new thing "furries".

Now of course for anyone who spent any time online in the last 30 years to be spared the horror of knowing about furries is laughable, but a lot of these older people basically didn't spend any time online in the last 30 years and only started once the smartphones rolled out. So they get exposed to it and think it's a new thing. Now for course I can't say anything about this other than nod and express surprise or disagreement at it, because dare I go and say "oh yeah those people have been online forever" it's almost always going to be followed up with suspicion and accusations thrown towards you, because naturally how would anyone know about this unless they were a furry?

So more conservative areas like Utah, I think are more susceptible to it for a number of reasons. One, conservative culture tends to be more puritan and sexually repressed, which I think tends to "breed" more crazy people going into dark corners of the internet and finding weird little niches, rather than just being slightly more open and gently nudged away from the weird, the get good at hiding everything and there's no social dynamic to stop their descent into madness unless it hits a point where it can't be hidden anymore and they have no choice but to fully embrace the weird identity publicly as that is now the only social group that will take them.

Second it's basically taboo to discuss these sorts of things at all. At least from any point of intelligence. Anything of any sort of sexual nature in conservative circles is essentially a taboo subject unless it's simply condemning something that the reactionaries have reacted to already and is socially safe to condemn. As such they're almost totally blind to these weird subcultures and potential groups and basically know fuck all nothing about them.

Cue in teenage rebellion, jokesters and the like, who think it's hilarious to watch a bunch of Mormon women freaking out about litter boxes (because it is hilarious) and having nobody in the picture to reign in the hysteria because it's social suicide to say "Oh I know what furries are, they're an Internet subculture that has existed for decades, this is likely a joke".

Conservative Christian groups tend to take the story of Adam and Eve in the garden and glean from it a lesson that obtaining knowledge is itself a sin, instead they value blind Innocence. It's a very stupid position, as man is already a fallen race which has lost its Innocence, one is simply allowing themselves to be blind to existing evil should they choose not to attempt to understand it, or to learn about how it operates, this is one reason why conservative groups often lose out in cultural battles even if they have a strong position on some issues, they prefer to be reactionary and sit around and only take action after some perceived threat has become such a problem that it is visible to them, rather than proactively seek out and learn about as much of the world as they can so that threats can be known and identified, and neutralized before they become problems, often by far less involved and far less unpleasant means than what later interventions require. It's one of the reasons I'm very critical of soft language. It allows for the problematically innocent to participate in government and decision making to the disadvantage of larger society. If you get offended at words like "lame" instead of "mobility challenged" then you really should have no fucking place in adult circles. We can't discuss the actual problem without dancing around a bunch of dumb holdups, meaning we can't actually discuss how we are going to help people who are lame get as full of access to society as possible.

And we can't discuss furries often dressing up as children's characters and creating sexually suggestive content as a potential threat to children or their own development because some overly sensitive hag is going to shut that down and insist we only talk about nice things. Leaving the threat unknown, undiscussed, and present, with a newfound confidence that it can persist safe from criticism.

This then leaves the only people who knows about it on the fringes, and gives way to the extremes. And no intelligent conversation can be had.

[–]LtGreenCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would agree with your theories. When I saw this was happening in Utah I had many of the same thoughts.

And I had to think back and you're right, it's roughly been 30 years. I can't believe it's been that long already. I remember finding out about them on a small gaming community message board I belonged to circa maybe 1998. A user made a post that was like "Check this out there's a whole group of people that like to dress up as Disney animals and fuck stuffed animals and sometimes even real animals and have orgies with each other."

Mind you the Internet was new to me (and most people) so I was still a sweet summer child who hadn't been exposed to the horrors yet. So when I learned about the furries and their habits I was shocked and hadn't seen anything so fucking weird, depraved, and crazy all at the same time. But that led me down a rabbit hole of curiosity of discovering all of the insane people and lifestyles the internet had to offer and I've never really been the same since.

[–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

and there's been a reaction on the lefter side of politics against "smolbeanism" or "safetyism" (the "soft language" you mentioned): not because it leaves people spineless and unable to draw a line in the sand, but because it lets them be vicious little shits with full social-media and institutional backing; it's like how mass victimization can just make a group themselves collective perpetrators, seeking blood atonement from everyone BUT their old oppressor (Americo-Liberians, Afrikaners, Hutu, Serbs, and, uh ...)

Ana Mardoll sort of broke the dam, a trans man who always presented as female to lure people into the sin of "misgendering" and then orgasm as a personal army shredded the crybullying victim, then they discovered Mardoll designed incubator-seeking munitions and it was all over

(also rewriting the high-school classic "The Lady and the Tiger" to have a GOOD ending where the protagonist gets the princess and the tiger's sent to live happily ever after in a zoo, which is more awful but in a qualitative way)

[–]Titanic 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

I know exactly why. Because once you're stupid enough to believe in golden plates, you're stupid enough to fall for this too

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well, that, and when you're trying to get away from all of the Mormon shit, there's an almost inevitable urge to go as extreme as possible.

[–]SolidSnek 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Twitter won't let me watch it. Is it posted anywhere else?