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[–]Q-Continuum-kin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I think we just used to refer to those people as cross dressers and it was a fairly well known trope that they did it explicitly as a sexual activity and kept it in their own bedroom. The whole trans glamorization brought those people out and now they are pushing that their sexual fetish is an "identity". It seemed like the HSTS people rode the coat tails of the gay rights movement but the AGPs were flying in right behind them in a big trojan horse and right behind them were the "I'm so special with my identity" teenagers who would have been goth in the previous generation.

[–]JulienMayfair 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The irony is that most of the AGP cross dressers were heterosexual men with a fetish who wanted NOTHING to do with gay rights from the 1960s through the 1990s. Then, once gay rights started making strides in the 2000s, they decided to hijack it for their own ends. And they decided the way to do it was to rewrite the history of gay rights, putting themselves at the center. That's really a big part of what peaked me, the overwhelming, deliberate dishonesty of it all.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Not really ironic to me. These people prove themselves to be homophobic. Partially the homophobia leads to the trans stuff... See pat Robertson etc.

[–]JulienMayfair 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Irony depends a lot on point of view. In this case, I think it's the contrast between their historic homophobia and their current claims that they were always at the center of the gay rights movement, which wouldn't have happened without them doing all the work.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

True, i guess the idea that transgender people are homophobic is actually ironic but I'm just so used to it at this point that to me this is the expected outcome.