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[–]LtGreenCo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I keep seeing that phrase "queer theory" and I usually just skim by without caring what it is, but this spurred me to finally look it up.

Apparently queer theory is an analytical framework created in the 90s for challenging the normalcy of heterosexuality. In other words, trying to convince us that heterosexuality isn't normal and that their sexual identities are. Which is mindboggling to me that anybody would even consider it for a second, because not only is it normal by statistical definition, but it's normal by biological necessity. It's critical to the survival of humanity, let alone almost every species on Earth larger than an amoeba. Like... just how fucking retarded do you have to be to seriously challenge this?

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It’s not just heterosexuality, it’s the concept of normalcy itself.

Queer Theory exists, in a nutshell, to antagonize norms, normativity, and the normal—that is, anything that can be considered normal by society (even in accurate, neutral description) and thus that carries or can be construed to imply a morally normative expectation about it, which it deems intrinsically oppressive.

Read the full definition here. It really is insidious in the way it intends to destroy everything.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I remember decades ago getting a couple of fun forum bans for having a debate with someone on this.

My argument was basically, removing any moral judgement from the term normal, it refers to what is essentially the default/statistically average condition, and by that logic, homosexuality cannot be normal in the human species as it's an evolutionary dead end.

If we define normal as "some pattern of behavior that commonly occurs in humans" than sure homosexuality is "normal".

Course if you take the whole "let's antagonize norms" then all holds are off, if it's normal not to murder homosexuals as I should hope is a societal norm, then by queer theory wouldn't you want to antagonize that norm by murdering gay people? It's clearly a nonsense theory.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It’s a nonsense theory that allows them to justify their predilection for raping children and to call you a bigot when you say “Hey, maybe you shouldn’t be raping children!” or “Yeah, I don’t think strippers and drag queens are entertainment for kids.”

It’s becoming increasingly difficult to understand how the entire academic world and subsequently the world at large was taken in by the grifters of Critical Social Justice fields like QT, CRT etc, because scratching even the thinnest part of the surface reveals the most vile shit (paedophilia, racism, etc).

I know the tide is slowly turning, the troons and Hoteps really seem to have opened a lot of people’s eyes. But still, they ran the western world for almost a decade.

[–]LtGreenCo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It’s becoming increasingly difficult to understand how the entire academic world and subsequently the world at large was taken in by the grifters

There definitely seemed to be a period of very quick infiltration by these ideologues into, not only Academia, but corporate culture, journalism, all media, all facets of pop-culture, and now just about everywhere. And it seemed to occur not long after we had that post-OWS epidemic of college students suddenly getting all uppity, demanding safe spaces, accusing staff of 'microaggressions', wanting to ban speech they disagree with, and all of that rhetoric that had the rest of us scratching our heads as to WTF happened to the universities. Apparently those same students, once graduated, were released unto the world with an agenda to push, and strangely, the knowhow of how to successfully infiltrate and subvert their employers. Without jumping to conspiracy theories I will say that it seemed to be all very coordinated, especially looking back at just how abrupt the cultural shift was.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think it's anything new really. We had groups like Nambla in the 90's after all.

Way I see it is they use the generally tolerant attitudes and necessity of free conversation in academic circles as a "safe space" environment to assemble as larger society won't tolerate their shit for a second. That's a double edged sword though really. The academic tolerance towards free speech is what allows us to have discussions like this and learn about such motives in the first place, if you try to mention this in a more mixed environment of "normies" they'll just think it very odd that you are discussing pedophilia at all and will assume you are the pedophile, likely at the insinuations of the actual pedophile in the group attempting to deflect.

I think these deflection tactics work in academia for a time as people make attacks of people being phobic or whatever, they've got their useful idiots to go on the attack for them, but I think it's cyclical. They go on unopposed for a time until they achieve some kind of mainstream awareness which they are aiming for, once that happens larger society comes around to realizing it and the tactics of attacking those who are suspicious and making wild claims of homophobia or whatever doesn't work anymore because the larger population won't respond well to those, which results in a large backlash and correction which forces them to throw their stupider and less discreet pedophiles under the bus and go back into the shadows and regroup. Larger society as a whole goes on a pedophilia crusade for awhile but like most moral panics it begins to turn into a witch hunt and you get shit like the satanic panic finding child molesters where there are none and stuff like parents getting caught up by overzealous agents for doing things like taking pictures of their baby taking a bath. Society realizes there's a witch hunt and rolls it back and remains pretty anathemic of the accusations again and the cycle repeats.

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well, there's your problem- their answer is "the societal norm is murder", so to the queer theorist, they would antagonize the norm by murdering the people THEY don't like first.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't expect them to have any logical premise they will hold themselves too other than trying to get away with whatever they want. It's a very selfish childish attitude that you'd hope most children grow out of in kindergarten.

I just like to point out how utterly worthless any theory that expresses an uncritical transgressions of social norms for no clear purpose other than transgression, personally I think it mostly exists as an easy paper topic for undergrads with useless humanities focuses to churn out without actually having to go out and "do the work" so to speak. How is refusing to share your toys an expression of queer liberation? Undergrad capstone project.