Confession: teaching at a Title I school with a progressive admin has made me less liberal…

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[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I understand why as well but you can't allow this sort of thing to continue forever.

There's a good argument to be made for a soft approach to certain problems but there comes a point where you need to separate certain problem students from the general student population or else they ruin it for everyone else.

Military style discipline is a pretty great option to shape up otherwise problem students that don't have "anything else wrong with them" except for the fact they are little shits. It's a terrible option for students that are actually retarded.

Ultimately the problem with schools I think comes from the same paradox of equality where it's necessary to run schools fairly to give all kids an equal chance but in reality everyone is different and it's impossible to make a system that works well for everyone.

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

genetics play a part in IQ, but they can never admit that so they'd rather keep the status quo where people use double think to convince themselves 2+2=5

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They certainly do but you can't make a judgement call on someone's actual IQ based solely on their parentage. Sometimes smart parents have stupid kids. Sometimes stupid parents have smart kids. Gotta give all the kids at the very least an opportunity to make the most of what they've got and not lump them in with some larger category you already assume to be stupid.

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yeah like how to smart parents have a down syndrome kid, caused by random mutations in the genetics

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But honestly, that's why I disagree that the reason schools hold students to the lowest standard for some equality paradox is based in bigotry, when the most likely excuse is the true one:

Teachers just plain don't give a shit. They don't have to. The teachers in the US know damn well they're glorified babysitters so that their parents can each work during the day- or at least one parent works and the other can drink wine and watches daytime TV in peace- and because they are they know they don't NEED to teach kids anymore. You're mad little Johnny can't read, write, or even know enough about science to cook meth so he has a future in 10 years? Well, you're making the teacher work and that makes them sad, and so the teacher's union will strike and you have to actually be a parent to your kids.

With that in mind, it makes sense for why the schools teach to the lowest common denominator. Teach to the lowest common denominator, you don't have to work as hard. And if some of the smarter kids are so bored to tears by this teaching they give up trying? Fuck it, they need to learn by now your job hopes in the future are based on "1- do Mommy and Daddy own a business? 2- Are you friends and/or have something on someone in high school or college who's Mommy and Daddy own a business?" Smarts or work ethic have nothing to do with it, your destiny was foretold by the stars in the sky and it cannot be fixed, and the sooner they learn to stop trying and accept it, the happier they'll be.