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[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I mean, it's one of the core tenets of certain ideologies--most of which tend to be on the left side, but there's occasionally one on the right too--that everyone is considered fit to make their own decisions, as long as those decisions are approved of by the majority. There's also a concurrent belief that anyone who doesn't follow the approved line of thought is being controlled by someone else.

Woman wants to date a man 10-20 years older than her? Clearly she's being groomed by her partner!

Minority votes Republican? Clearly it's internalized racism and "plantation" mindset!

Kids don't want to participate in gender shit at school? Clearly being brainwashed by their parents!

Woman wants to be a mother, homemaker, and "traditional"--I put that in quotes because it means different things to different people--wife? Clearly indoctrinated by a lifetime of misogyny and patriarchal supremacy!

Edit: Another interesting expression of this contradictory mindset is how people constantly tout that people under their mid-20s shouldn't be held to the same standards of responsibility for some things because their brains aren't finished developing yet (i.e., they can't fully and accurately evaluate risks and consequences). But, at the same time, we should also listen to this very same demographic when it comes to voting, social policies, and their ability to consent to permanent physical alterations?

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oh, I have no problem with the idea that the infantilisation of people is a bipartisan effort.

I was a DnD player in the 80s and remember the religious right losing their minds over it, along with “video nasties” (essentially schlocky gory horror films that the Tory press disapproved of).

It’s just funny to me that currently the “my body my choice” crowd are so quick to shout “but not that choice” at women doing things they disapprove of.

A lot of the arguments I see from progressives are actually so similar to arguments made by Mary Whitehouse (think older British church lady complaining about sex and violence on TV and movies). They’ve become the censors we used to hate but they’re right because they’re doing it for progressive reasons and not Jesus.

[–]alladd 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think two competing agendas are in conflict. There's the "we're smart and independent and can make our own decisions even if they harm us" one, and it's running up against this other thing that goes "we're powerless and defenseless and easily brainwashed and need to be babysat" which is used as a cudgel to put unambitious people into positions of more financial security. If you trace their usage carefully enough you can almost reverse-engineer a person's yearly income.

[–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean 2020-21 they were pretty enthusiastic about school librarians doing selective "normal weeding" and pressure groups "nicely asking" publishers to cut or rewrite Dr. Seuss and Roald Dahl postmortem: "now you stupid Tucker Carlson-watching MAGA CHUDs can't read racist books to your kids!" even booksellers were high-fiving that the wrongthink was being cleared after the sun rose again over Biden's Inauguration

then they hit the roof when the alt(?)-right jumped onto the "we have to root out pedos" bandwagon (which had started up on the LW, basically) and now lay parents without a degree in finding offense or a training program are appearing at school board meetings?!