You can't make fun of this fictional character's hair, it's racism

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[–]ClassroomPast6178 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Lemme guess the most honourable cultural guardian is a teenage white girl whose sum total knowledge of Japanese culture and history comes from her Crunchy Roll subscription and Reddit?

Ahh so, most insclutabrel!

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Might be third or fourth generation immigrant, they tend to go hard into this shit sometimes as a way to compensate for the fact that they are for all intents and purposes assimilated fully into "white" culture but don't like the fact the language barrier prevents them from really connecting well with their ancestors culture.

Course it doesn't really matter in the end what race the person making the message is because the message sucks anyway. Beyond that I think it's funny they whine about how only Japanese people can express their opinion on this when it's a Chinese game in the first place. I wonder if they even realize that.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

how only Japanese people can express their opinion on this when it's a Chinese game in the first place. I wonder if they even realize that.

Wouldn't be the first time someone said that only the Japanese can decide what's acceptable for China...

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Genshin impact is relatively new but I've seen a lot of people who seem to think it's Japanese. Understandable since the art style is a clear anime inspired Moe shit. It's in line with popular trends and more western stuff is also taking that style.

Course blaming it on cultural appropriation is retarded, since anime was originally heavily inspired by Disney.

I always find it hilarious when weebs start complaining about how Japanese people say their favorite anime is Disney. It's really funny. They start telling them that Disney isn't an anime, though they don't realize that when the word was borrowed into English the meaning changed and they are now imposing their meaning on the original language. The irony is thick when they start going on about the cultural appropriation shit.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Anime reminds me of things like this, they make cartoon character designs too realistic so they just look creepy. It also bothers me how blatantly fetishized 99% of the female characters are. No wonder all the troons love it.

[–]wylanderuk 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If its anything like the entire museum kimono shitfit it might be a third or fourth generation immigrant, but probably not of Japanese decent

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Most of the time it's people who have drank the "cultural appropriation" Kool aid and have gone straight to behaving exactly the same way a xenophobe behaves, white people cannot corrupt themselves with the cultures of lesser life forms, except uno-reverse white colonials are wrong to steal the culture of other countries, as if culture is something that can be stolen.

Sure it might be offensive if you dress like a medicine man and make mockery of some kind of sacred ritual or whatever, I can see that, but the kimono shit was funny because it's literally just a historical piece of clothing that people still wear when they want to feel fancy. Go to Japan and there's loads of businesses for kimono dress up, many of which cater to tourists even because tourist money is just as green.

The people whining about it are the same bitchy kids that would get pissed at you for "stealing" their joke or something when you share something you've heard with another. They've got nothing going on for themselves, no talent themselves, beyond their "exotic" asian-nes or whatever, so they feel the need to guilt trip anyone else taking an interest in their special whatever because it makes them feel less unique when white people know what ramen is or can use chopsticks.

It'd a problem with centering your whole Identity on race though. Most people have their own individual personality and their racial or cultural background is not that important to them beyond family ties and tradition and what not. I think what happens is teenagers looking for a "tribe" so to speak start to bond with other people from their same ethnic background which in and of itself is fine, but it can lead to problems when they take it past the point of adulthood so that it becomes their whole identity.

This person is claiming to be Okinawan. Which might be true idk. But it's definitely the one to pick for the oppression Olympics since you can identify as Japanese for the cool factor but also get your colonial overlord association get out of jail free card since the Okinawans did get a bunch of shit from the empire and it's not like the American presence is totally problem free either.

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most of the time it's people who have drank the "cultural appropriation" Kool aid and have gone straight to behaving exactly the same way a xenophobe behaves, white people cannot corrupt themselves with the cultures of lesser life forms, except uno-reverse white colonials are wrong to steal the culture of other countries, as if culture is something that can be stolen.

Even then, their own argument breaks itself for logic:

To the cultural appropriation Wokester, white people cannot appreciate anything from another culture as cultural appropriation is racist.

To the same people, white people have no culture and the only white culture is racism.

Therefore, by their own logic, it is white people's moral imperative to immerse themselves in other cultures, since to do so is to be racist and thus engage in white culture.

[–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

older Japanese-Americans told the activistsTM that their anti-kimono protest was barmy and insulting to Japanese culture itself, so they retrenched and said it was only for Asian-Americans sufficiently college-educated in insulting tropes from back when Taft was president (and the event was about 1890s paintings of Europeans in kimonos so it was poking comment at a fad)

like, one of the protesters was Dominican IIRC

actually a lot of scholars have noted that it's the Nth generation that's most interested in Khalistan/26+6/those Soviet meanies forcing Pop-Pop to flee just because he edited one little newspaper/instructions on how to hijack a garbage truck: 1st-gen of course actually came from the village, and their kids'll know all that firsthand from home, and even speak English technically as their second language; but it's the acculturated later ones who undergo a "rediscovery" of their "heritage," but who can only experience everything secondhand: it's like how the 19th-c. nationalist revivals were basically forgeries based on one excitable poet's "reconstructions"

[–]NerveActive[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Might be third or fourth generation immigrant

Probably. Most japanese artists and users I see on twitter don't put the Japan flag on their names or bios. They just write everything in japanese or say something like JP/ENG. The ones who are tryhard like this are usually compensating.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm trying to make sense of the handle myself. Hina is an actual girls name but it's not super common I don't think and it's pretty weeb adjacent because of anime like "love Hina" or whatever. ほむら isn't a name at all and means flames or something like that, a quick Google search seems to bring up yakiniku restaurants and some anime character.

Then Kittychankuniku, kittychan is hello kitty so that's normal. No idea what the fuck kuniku is supposed to be. Searched it in Japanese and it came up as 狗肉 dog meat. Lol.

I'm guessing it's supposed to be 苦肉 which is "Deceiving your enemy by causing your own suffering or that of your ally" Not really sure what is going on.

Her Twitter feed looks like typical Tumblr nonsense she's just got an Okinawa fascination. So I'm guessing it's some kid obsessed with genshin impact and Okinawa who spends entirely too much time online.

[–]LyingSpirit472 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

But the fact that it's a Chinese game is why u/ClassroomPast6178 is more likely to be right here. Part and parcel of the "butthurt weeb acting like most honorable cultural guardian" is a firm belief all Asians are Japanese.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

a firm belief all Asians are Japanese.

There was a time last century when that came pretty close to being true, and they'd have gotten away with it, if it hadn't been for those meddling Americans and their blasted A-bombs!

[–]alladd 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

wait if asian people slur both Ls and Rs, why not just switch them in the word?

[–]ClassroomPast6178 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It’s because those phonemes are alien to them and so not only do they struggle to pronounce them but I believe they struggle to hear a difference between them. At least that’s an explanation I’ve heard for the transposition of r’s and l’s by Japanese and Chinese.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

More or less true. If you think of where tour tongue is when making an l or an r sound, the Japanese and Chinese equivalent tends to be somewhere in the middle of that. Which is a sound that is similar to either but is neither.

So it isn't that I'd say the phoneme is alien, it's just the east Asian phoneme doesn't exist in English and it only has one variation, where in English there's two different phonemes. If you think about it the L and R sounds are actually very similar mechanically, but since native English speakers grow up with a language that differentiates them the brain picks up on it as necessary information for determining meaning. Someone growing up speaking Japanese or Chinese it doesn't really matter if you get sloppy with the pronunciation of your L or R since the phoneme in those languages is singular and the differentiation is not important towards meaning so native speakers of those languages don't get the same mental awareness of the change.

On the flip side both Chinese and Japanese have some tonal qualities in vowel tones that are important towards meaning, far more pronounced in Chinese (most Japanese curriculum will not mention the two tones in Japanese since it will scare off beginners and isn't really important as the correct meaning can be interpreted by context, as well as tonalities varying by dialect) .

If you listen to the Chinese tones side by side you can definitely make them out and hear the difference, but it's very hard to reproduce especially in conversation if you're growing up in a language that doesn't consider tones to be integral to meaning. Same for Japanese or Chinese speakers with L or R, they understand the difference but it's hard to use when their language simply considers both to be equivalent.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks. That’s a brilliant explanation.

I have given up trying to teach phonics to children who have grown up speaking a different language, it is pretty much impossible for them to learn English that way. It caused massive arguments in the school I worked in at the time as there were a lot of children new to English coming from the subcontinent. We had good results from just straight up teaching words (look and say) rather than trying to teach them the way we teach native English speakers.

Best result I ever had though was because the child’s parents were both fluent English speakers (they were Indian and highly educated in India but the child grew up in Italy, so she spoke Italian and her home language, one of the thousands of Indian languages) so when I asked the parents to speak English at home they did 100% immersion with their child and they ended up a fluent English speaker in three years (fluent enough to read and write English at a higher than expected level for an 11 year old) it was remarkable.

[–]Adventurous_Ad6212 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I’ll stop making fun of ridiculous anime hair when Japanese people stop their casual racism. For the record I hope they don’t. I find it hilarious.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In what way is it harmful?

Does anyone ever explain this?

[–]NastyWetSmear 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Heh. Looks like the bowl used for that bowl cut had a crack in it. She missed a big'ol strand.

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Blue eyes and black hair. He's going to get laid.