"When someone says they’re trans, it usually means *something else* is badly wrong in their life" - Vivek Ramaswamy

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[–]IkeConn 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I have known a lot of gay people and not one of them has a happy life.

[–]newguy 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I know a few happy gay people. I don't know any happy trans people though. They can't even accept their own bodies.

[–]makesyoudownvote 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I know happy people from both camps, though the happiest trans people I know are pretty angry about the trans rights movement.

The happiest trans people I know accept reality and see their surgeries for what they are, cosmetic. They know they are not really the opposite sex but rather simply choose to adopt the opposite gender as they feel it's a better fit for them. Imo I would support that.

If a male friend wants to be treated like a woman, I would make an effort. He would need to be patient because I might not see him that way, but I would make an effort.

If he starts talking about misgendering being hate speech though, we are no longer friends. Me referring to you the way you want is a privilege born out of earned respect, I don't need much respect but there is a minimum. Roughly the same level as me calling you by a preferred nickname instead of just whatever comes to mind. If I don't respect you, I will call you an asshole or a dick or I might misgender you whether you are trans or not. I have called many a cic-hetero friend miss or lady or whatever when I am ripping on them. The fact you are mentally disturbed or delusional doesn't necessarily excuse you.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Me referring to you the way you want is a privilege born out of earned respect, I don't need much respect but there is a minimum.

This gender vs. sex concept is nonsense. Sex is simply a fact of life. One of many. A fact.

In this example, accommodating a fantasy isn't a respectful act.

It's similar to cheering on a friend with a gambling addiction. It doesn't actually improve the root cause of the issue.

A man who wants to be a woman ultimately wants to engage in activities that only women can experience.

It's not possible with male parts.

It's not possible with surgically adjusted male parts.

They need to create a new word for what they can actually be.

Pretending it's plausible is a disservice to everyone.

[–]makesyoudownvote 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I get where you are coming from, however I definitely think there is validity in fine tuning distinctions and precision in language.

In my opinion one thing the TRAs won't admit that is ironically crux to their entire argument is that gender is still BASED on sex.

In my opinion, gender is a set of conventions, protocols, and behaviors evolved to be optimal for a given sex.

So it's kind of like software vs hardware. You can run OSX on PC, but it won't run optimally, you will run into some compatibility issues and lose key functionality of the software. Hell nothing is even stopping you from trying to create your own O.S. But it sure isn't going to be as fully developed and thought out as the main ones.

That's the distinction between sex and gender imo.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In my opinion, gender is a set of conventions, protocols, and behaviors evolved to be optimal for a given sex.

Gender was made up by a pedo named Dr John Money to convolute a binary set of sex.

Sex is precise language.