PRIVILEGEFragile female cop causes 16 year old autistic girl to be dragged out of her home kicking and screaming by seven officers and arrested for “Homophobic Publc Order Offense” for saying “You look like my lesbian nana” in her own home.

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[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

The girl's mother says: 'She's made a comment in her own house, she hasn't said anything to you.'

The mother repeats 'she's autistic', to which the officer responds 'I don't care'.

The girl then makes some noises which the mother explained was her punching herself in distress.

The officers remain in the hallway as the mother shouts out: 'You're going to remove her for what, she said the word lesbian? Her nana is a lesbian, she's married to a woman. She's not homophobic.'

A male officer intervenes, saying a homophobic comment has been made to his colleague.

And I will add, we know why the male officers went along with this, because any disagreement or discussion would result in them being disciplined. The fragile ego of the female police officer, shattered by a sixteen year old female autist, wielded the power of the state in a wholly inappropriate manner. Sack her.

[–]Adventurous_Ad6212 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (7 children)

Isn’t it homophobic for her to be that offended that someone called her a lesbian?

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Kinda is, isn’t it.

[–]Adventurous_Ad6212 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My issue is that this officer had one acceptable response to this and it was to say “haha thanks kid” and then walk away. You can’t have thin skin as a cop. If she can’t even handle having some kid call her a dyke then what will she do when someone tells her to fuck off. The lack of critical thinking is distressing and this lady should be moved from her job and charged with excessive force.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, that seems to be the general response that I’ve seen to this story.

People are getting fed up of stories of police officers overreacting to petty shit at the same time that the public is seeing the police spend less and less time dealing with actual crime.

The diversity and inclusion hirings and promotions have really screwed police forces all over the country.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah that's kind of my take. There's no real way to construe that as hateful, unless you assume that a lesbian is a bad thing. (I've looked at the photos and she does indeed look like a stereotypical lesbian).

I want to see the other side of this story personally. The side we are getting points to a really rediculous overreaction and while horrible if true, my BS detectors are going off and I suspect someone is trying to start a public outrage. I'd be very surprised if there isn't extra information we don't know yet.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Always worth considering that there might be more to it. I suspect that the family is one of those families that are “known to the police” because they continually cause low level nuisances, and the police are regularly involved in sorting it out. The hint that that might the case is that the family called the police to bring the autistic daughter home when she got steaming drunk.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah I mean she's 16 which is , underage in the UK as well right? Or is that only for spirits.

It seems like since she was piss drunk and causing a disturbance, it's likely that she might have been screaming bloody murder or something ahead of time and we are just getting the tail end of the story. Or maybe not. Hard to say exactly.

But like you'd have to get really rediculously drunk and disruptive to get police attention in the UK right? It's not like the states where depending on where you at the cops might book you for the night for stumbling a bit on the sidewalk if they think you are drunk. She'd have to be doing something a bit more obnoxious than just drinking too much to get police attention no?

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The law around alcohol and age is complicated but generally you have to be 18 to purchase it from a licensed establishment (pub, supermarket, off-licence etc) except you can buy beer, cider and wine at 16 with a meal.

However, there’s no specific law preventing you giving alcohol, of any type, to your five year old at home. No one does, but the law really only cares about alcohol sales.

There is plenty of leeway inside public order offences to deal with drunken teens causing trouble that there doesn’t need to be specific ones for alcohol.

The cops only seem to have got involved because the family called them to deal with her and that’s probably a sign that she was, or the family was, well known to them.

[–]jet199 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

To be fair I think the protective attitude of the male officers towards their female colleague is a big part of this. It's not just about their jobs. And the female officer knows and expects that behaviour from them.

This is why I have no time for simps or white knights, I've been on the wrong side of them too many times when they are protecting their lady (who has escalated the situation to get another woman attacked but keep her own hands clean).

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yes, there is certainly some of that too.

But remember that the hate crime rules are written in a way that if they were to say “steady on Denise, she’s just a disabled kid” they would be denying her lived experience and they’ve been trained heavily on that way of thinking.

The Crown Prosecution Service (the prosecution service for England & Wales) lists it as:

Any criminal offence which is perceived by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by hostility or prejudice, based on a person's disability or perceived disability; race or perceived race; or religion or perceived religion; or sexual orientation or perceived sexual orientation or transgender identity or perceived transgender identity."

And what makes it a travesty is that this definition isn’t, as far as I know, written into law, it is simply a convention adopted by the CPS and police. It’s antidemocratic, illiberal and just plain immoral.

[–]LyingSpirit472 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Not only that, but then you can also get into the "a chicken can be the most offensive thing in the world if your father died choking on an egg" factor: If the cop just has it out to get a certain person and just hates them and wants to throw the book at them? Take anything the person does or does not do as offensive and you can slap a hate crime charge onto them too!

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It’s not a “hate crime” charge, the “hate” bit is simply an aggravating factor for the purposes of sentencing. You actually have to commit a criminal offence, like assault or a public order offence.

[–]LyingSpirit472 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

True, but it's the same point- if the officer just is out to get a certain person and wants the book thrown at them, these rules mean that they can claim literally anything the criminal does or does not do as "hate" and can get a longer sentence.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Some fairly big steps before that happens. The CPS have to agree that there’s a likelihood of getting a conviction before they will even proceed with a court case, they then have to agree to add the aggravating factors.

The prosecution has to be successful, and they have to actually prove that the aggravating factors happened.

There’s no plea bargaining in England & Wales, so the prosecution can’t load up the charges and aggravating factors and hope you plead guilty to lesser offences. But there are reductions in sentencing if you plead guilty early, and reductions are considerable.

And finally, judges are under much tighter controls regarding summing up and sentencing.

So whilst it is possible, and definitely happened to that poor welsh teenager who upset the troonette police officer, it’s a rarity.

Doesn’t stop the police doing shit like recording “non-crime hate incidents” which are outrageous and there’s court cases pending over those. But nchis don’t lead to trials and prison, they just fuck up someone’s police record for things like background checks. They were also invented by the college of policing and have no basis in law.

[–]Adventurous_Ad6212 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And possibly illesbian

[–]bife_de_lomo 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Mother: "She's autistic!"

Police: "I don't care!"

So respect for protected characteristics only works one way, eh? Fuck disabled people, I guess...

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

It’s the old hierarchy of victimhood, disability isn’t as high up as LGBT.

It’s interesting an autistic teenage man was convicted of a similar offence in 2020 when he asked a troonette police officer if they were a man or woman. The troonette police officer felt “embarrassed and upset” and so he deserved a criminal record, curfew and fine. Almost no one gave a shit about him.

I suspect that this case won’t get as far as court, because it’s a teenage girl and the Crown Prosecution Service will refuse to proceed with charges because it’ll make them all look like cocks.

[–]Clownfall 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

There's more to it than that, the woke really dislike autistic people, almost as much as they dislike old people. Why? - probably just because they're far more likely to reject woke nonsense and think in terms of facts and logic rather than falling for appeals to emotion.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I dunno. I’ve worked with lots of autistic people and to say “they think in terms of fact and logic” is really only true for the high functioning.

There’s also plenty of evidence that the trans community is full of autistic people, and no one would accuse them of being heavily facts and logic-based.

[–]Clownfall 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There's also the obsessive element of high-functioning autism, and this can go either way I guess, into obsessing over gender identity, appearance, and porn/sex, or into a TERFy obsession, spending endless hours reading/listening and generally learning about the subject, trying to understand WTF is going on and how it can be resisted.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The only real common factor we can say about autism is that they struggle to read other people's social cues and lack whatever that sense is that normal people have. But autism itself is pretty poorly defined and we don't really know what it is beyond a smattering of similar behaviors hunting towards an underlying mental condition.

Facts and logic don't really have that much to do with it. Highly intelligent educated autistics don't understand the "social appropriateness" of when and where to avoid facts and logic which lead to some really hilarious but sad takedowns of people since it usually makes the autist look like they are heartless when they think the opposite in their own mind.

But I've met some really retarded autists as well. Same lack of social awareness but just generally stupid on top of it. I don't think there is any correlation with intelligence. If anything the only relation is that the lack of social awareness and perceived intelligence is probably the scholastically inclined autistic is probably more interested in doing nerdy shit like studying than hanging with the frat boys and getting frustrated by their inability to really connect like everyone else.

[–]LyingSpirit472 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But on the opposite side, that also explains a reason why the woke don't like autistic people: an autistic person who doesn't troon out is therefore a safe person to declare evil and destroy for them to look good.

The autistic snarts, on the other hand, will be lovebombed to stay there until they get enough clout to turn on them because they're not cool enough to sit at their lunch table, and not being cool makes the woke people sad- and anything that makes them sad is oppressing them.

[–]bife_de_lomo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Ugh, that's so gross

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah.

Diversity hiring has privileged melanin content, genital configuration and preferred genital-genital interface over common sense, ability and resilience.

So the professional managerial class gets to crow about meeting their DEI targets but the service end users are left with second or third rate service. Policing in England (can’t speak for Scotland or Wales…and policing in NI has its own special problems, especially this week)has become a joke.

[–]bife_de_lomo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Haha, I like your phrasing

preferred genital-genital interface

I'll nick that.

On the topic of police, yeah, I can't think of a more bigoted bunch when I think of the bobby of old, but I'd prefer a bigot who actually prevents and solves (real) crimes any day.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I’m not sticking up for the racists and homophobes of old, but I think there might be a sweet spot between thug and wimp where we get decent police who aren’t so sensitive that mean words cause they/them to have a tantrum.

There were a flood of stories in the press a little while ago about police recruits quitting when they realised they would face violence, have to talk to the public and work nights and weekends. The diversity hiring shit is a disaster.

[–]fuck_redditThou/Thee/Thy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Protected characteristics are only protected if you support the state

[–]clownworlddropout 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Oi mate! You got a loicense for that word?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Do you think that this can happen in every other western country but magically not come to the US? Think again.

[–]wylanderuk 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It fucking well came from there...

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nope, it came from communists dictatorships.

https://www.hoover.org/research/sordid-origin-hate-speech-laws

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Huh?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

They will pass this here if we don't remain vigilant and aggressive. E.g. DeSantis' speech laws in Florida.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Pass what? It’s not legislation it’s undemocratic collusion on policy between the CPS (prosecutors) and police chiefs association/college of policing all of which have been utterly taken over by critical social justice nonsense.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

oh my bad, i thought it was illegal to gay slur there

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The “hate speech” stuff tends to be an aggravating factor during sentencing.

It’s an offence to cause distress (eg screaming and threatening people) in public, cause distress by screaming the N word and that will be used to increase your sentence if you’re found guilty.

There are laws about “malicious communications” and that was what CountDankula fell foul off, that and a Scottish magistrate without a sense of humour.

So just saying the words isn’t a criminal offence, much to the dismay of the College of Policing, but saying the words whilst doing something actually criminal is going to get you a harsher sentence.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Why were the cops at this home to begin with?

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Drunk taxi.

Apparently, the family called for help bringing the autistic girl home after she got steaming drunk in the town centre.

Just another reminder not to bring the police into your life when it isn’t an emergency.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The details make it far worse. They knew they were dealing with a mentally challenged teenager so she could have said some crazy shit. The thing that was said was incredibly tame but the cops should have been ready for crazy stuff then got triggered by the word "lesbian".

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, and in context it’s even crazier when the mother says “her nana is a lesbian married to a woman” so it’s not even meant as an insult, just an observation that the female cop looked like her grandmother.

There was an out for the cop too, she could simply have de-arrested the girl and done the teacher thing of giving a little lecture about being nice. But egos were bruised.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I can't even comprehend that a cop can police the speech of a person in their own house. It's hilarious when these European countries claim with a straight face that they have free speech while simultaneously defending this stuff.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe she was just be very insulted to be compared to someone's Nana?

[–]Femaleisnthateful 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I typically think the cops get an unfair rap, but maybe my perception would be different in the UK. They appear to have taken on the role of morality police

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They’ve been taken over by professional managerial class like every other organisation with a largely working class workforce. The military has gone the same way, obsessed with diversity and inclusion (the RAF recently got caught discriminating against white male pilots, and had to pay a load of compensation claims because of it).

The police have also had a decade of Tory spending cuts, additional duties (increasing mental health call-outs) and the fact that they can do nothing right in the eyes of the left nor right. Diversity and inclusion has also taken a bit of a toll, but the stupid attempt to professionalise the force by introducing policing degree courses has made a mess of recruitment (the kinds of people that used to become coppers weren’t the people who went to university). Fast tracking officers into senior roles has also been a disaster, especially combined with the DEI policies.

[–]wylanderuk 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The rot is top down from what I can see and recruitment policies are big issue as well, they like to recruit graduates from what I understand. So some pimple faced recent grad with the moral fortitude of a wet rag and the life experience of a amoeba. Where as in the past they were pretty heavily ex armed forces.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

They not only recruit graduates, they fast track them out of the rank and file and into managerial positions far faster than used to happen - because they want more diversity in the senior ranks- this leads to less experienced officers rising through the ranks based on physical characteristics rather than merit. Cressida Dick is a prime example, lesbian woman rises through the ranks to the very top, despite making massive blunders at every level of her career—they had to have a female head of the Met. Same happened with the London Firebrigade, they had to have a female chief and she was a disaster and ended up resigning (like Dick). Not because they were women, but because the my were unqualified and promoted only because they fitted the diversity plan.

It’s crippling the police, and the wider public sector because this same shit is happening throughout the civil service, the health service, teaching and universities. It’s a plague.

[–]Haylstorm 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's worse for everyone when they get fast tracked. Those extra years of experience can have a huge impact. Look at any job and compare how you are on year one to year five to year ten. I absolutely do some things differently in my role than when I started. For all we know the extra time could've made them competent in the role, instead it's just going to make everyone assume that anyone else there are diversity hires rather than genuinely skilled.

Locally our police are really really good. My friend has a grandmother that has dementia and has wandered off a few times (they have a tracker now) and even when she's kicked off at them and called them all slurs they've just sort of taken it in stride and got her home/to the hospital for a checkup. Though that might be because one of them apparently also had a grandparent with dementia and knows it's the disease not the person. But that isn't everyone's experience. I'd hate for this kind of rot to take hold here.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Locally our police are really really good. My friend has a grandmother that has dementia and has wandered off a few times (they have a tracker now) and even when she's kicked off at them and called them all slurs they've just sort of taken it in stride and got her home/to the hospital for a checkup. Though that might be because one of them apparently also had a grandparent with dementia and knows it's the disease not the person. But that isn't everyone's experience. I'd hate for this kind of rot to take hold here.

It’s important to remember that there are still good people in these organisations. It’s too easy to get sucked into believing that they are all useless, incompetent or malicious.

We had a murder outside our house six weeks ago, the cops shut the busy road off trapping us indoors for the best part of 72 hours. But they were brilliant at handling all the people who tried to walk or drive through the cordon. Even when they were canvassing and knocked on my door they were very apologetic about the trouble and explained what was going on. Really couldn’t fault them on anything, even though I couldn’t take my elderly father out of the house at all for all that time.

Edit: yes, South London, yes, a stabbing, yes, the demographic you are thinking and yes, gang-related.

[–]Haylstorm 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah they do do their best I think. It's just that you only really hear about the bad cases. Not really news when the police do 'routine' things like our experiences despite it being (I hope) the vast majority of cases. Some of what they deal with would genuinely break me and I can see that having an impact too.

[–]wylanderuk 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oh yeah she did seem to be a complete muppet, that dude that got shot in the underground should have sank her like a fucking lead balloon...

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She was protected from on high, cause apparently that wasn’t the first major fuck up of her career.

[–]YJaewedwqewq 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In Britain, the police refuse to investigate rapes and murders committed by non-Whites for fear of looking racist, and they let them riot in the streets without consequence. They're not police, they're political commissars.

[–]UglySlut 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What's wrong with looking like a lesbian?

[–]IkeConn 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

And a few months later she wins $20 Million and the cop gets fired.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

And a few months later she wins $20 Million

Unless she’s doing the National Lottery, she’s not going to win any money. This isn’t the US, you have to actually prove that you have suffered financial damages here and there’s no punitive awards either. So maybe she could claim for the cost of the Uber cab back from the police station.

Even if they had killed the kid, she wouldn’t get anywhere near a £1m in compensation. The only multimillion pound court awards are when someone needs 24/7 nursing care for the rest of their life due to injuries incurred and those are thankfully very rare.

[–]IkeConn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fuck your country.

[–]wylanderuk 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

While you may or may not look her lesbian nana officer, you do look like a absolute cunt in this and the other 6 are wankers...

[–]Tarrock 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Police love hate speech laws. They get an easy arrest to fill their quota and the people they arrest don't resist. It's why the UK has grooming gangs and other draconian shit. white person saying lesbian = easy arrest. Muslim grooming gang = hard, time consuming, and dangerous.

[–]MyLongestJourney 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"You look like my lesbian nana".

Ok,so what is so offensive about that???As a homosexual woman fuck that snowflake of a female cop and fuck her even more if she is actually homosexual. Seriously,you got so offended by that remark (which it is not offensive in any way unless you are a major homophobe) that you got a 16 year old arrested for a hate crime.Got catch an actual criminal if you dare!!!I hope you get fired along with your male accomplices.

[–]noshore4me 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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[–]UncleWillard56 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

And look how many damn cops showed up! That's fucking ridiculous. Hopefully that will be the case that cracks down on all this "we'll arrest you if you tweet something we don't like." I hope they sue for millions.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I’ve done restraint training and having more people is safer for the person being restrained and the people doing the restraint. Solo restraint can be very dangerous for everyone involved.

You can’t sue for millions in England & Wales, you can only sue for actual damages and losses.

They have already No Further Action’d it, so the whole sorry affair has now ended.

[–]UncleWillard56 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Good point, but an even better point to me is that police should de-escalate not over-escalate, and this was exactly that. There was no reason for the cops to even be there and to ignore the fact that this person was autistic and to put them through that torture just because they said you look like a lesbian is way out of bounds. This person should lose their job.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They brought her home drunk and combative. The family called the police to take the daughter home from the local Pride Parade. It was as the police officer was bringing her into the house from the car that she allegedly said what she claims to have said.

If the female officer had a thicker skin, this wouldn’t have happened. If the parents had been sensible and just collected their daughter herself, this wouldn’t have happened.

I suspect that this is one of those problem families that are well known to the local police and that’s why they were calling up the rozzers for a lift and not Uber.

I fully agree that the aggrieved female officer should be disciplined, as until the full body cams are released (if that ever happens) it looks like she’s taken an annoying situation and blown it way out of proportion and if nothing else, put her colleagues and a child at risk of injury.

[–]UncleWillard56 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the context. I used to be a 911 Operator/Police Dispatcher and I think it was around 50/50 actual emergencies to frequent fliers.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Police decide to drop all further action

Seems someone sensible stepped in. Hopefully the officer who precipitated this nonsense is disciplined.

[–]Haylstorm 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Def needs a talking to. Even if it's a just a why did this upset you so much? You know it's part of the job. If you can't deal with that it's not the field for you.

I mean I don't think 'abuse' should be part of any job but that hardly qualifies.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They’re having problems retaining younger officers, largely because they’re not resilient enough.

I’ve seen young teachers overreact to stuff in the same way. They’ve grown up being told that the worst thing that can happen to you is to be teased and namecalled, thanks to ridiculously over the top anti bullying measures in schools, and they don’t know how to just let things slide off them.

The flip side of this was demonstrated to me when I watched one headmistress I worked for (at my favourite school) stand stony faced as a mother screamed at her with her nose practically touching. The head just waited until the woman had tired herself out and remained calm and in control the whole time. It was a sight to behold, the epitome of self control and confidence.

[–]Haylstorm 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How are they this upset?

I mean I work for a council, there's a lot of people who chuck abuse at you for not doing something fast enough. I've been called a retarded jobsworth once for someone not getting a repair done fast enough (not my area, I'm just making sure it goes through on the system and I can see that it's currently with the contractor I don't control how quickly the contractor gets there mate) if you work in a public facing role people are going to be rude. It's not really that bad, they're just frustrated that they feel things aren't being done fast enough. I get it. Would still prefer they stayed polite but I may as well ask for a serious pay rise as the likelihood of both is close to nil lol.

Same for the teachers. Kids can be little shits, it's part of the job to deal with that and getting mad at them is just going to make them do it more in the future. I respect the hell out of that headteacher though, that's what's needed. Some parents are absolutely nuts. If you do anything there you can easily escalate it into an incident. It's a valuable life skill and these people lacking it is doing them a huge disservice.

[–]Brewdabier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Poor kid, she has every disability in the medical book according the the mother. People will do there best to bull shit cops,