LOL WUTThe pro-gender identity theory article accompanying Richard Dawkins’ gender critical article is insane

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[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Remember: Non-binary is a identity you have to embrace by yourself within the binary world. It doesn't mean you get to say everyone else is not binary.

Also thanks for using archive so they don't get any clicks.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

If sex is binary, which it is, non-binary cannot exist.

You’re either male or female, there’s no inbetween state of sex. Even people with ambiguous genitalia are either male or female, they’re not some magical third sex or non-sex.

It’s time to stop humouring the lunatics, we do not have to participate or go along with their delusions.

[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I do get behind non-binary if we're talking man and woman strictly on the idea of gender roles. So someone that is born either a male or female wants to be a thing that doesn't fall into either category of the gender roles of womanhood or manhood.... simply not-binary.

But alas they're making it so it's part of the trans umbrella now which adds it to all that woke nonsense. I find it hard to support these people when they complicate simple things.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That is just gender non-conforming, not a new super special identity.

No need to invent a new category and invent languages and flags and demand rights and groups. Just wear your dress or whatever and get on with it, Boy George was doing it in the 80s and Bowie did it in the 70s. The trouble is they want special treatment.

[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The trouble is they want special treatment.

I agree. But if you're friends with a non-binary person, it doesn't hurt for you to use a language that they prefer you using. The thing I dislike is special treatment and they demanding society as a whole change. But they have their own special groups and you have to abide by their rules on these groups and there's no problem with that as long as they don't try to do what they're doing now. That's how I see it.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Hmmm. Trouble is, humour them socially and then they will demand policy changes and changes in law.

So nope.

[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I agree with ya there. I tend to avoid interaction with them. But who knows if they're not a nuisance and they're someone I require interacting with maybe I'll go along with their fantasies assuming it's not exhausting for myself.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Pretty much everyone is non-binary. I'm not sure if there has ever really been anyone who adheres to every single gender norm and stereotype of their sex. I'm non-binary, you're non-binary, my kid is non-binary, my mother is non-binary. Everyone's mother is/was non-binary. Everyone's father is/was non-binary It's not special, we all do it to some degree. If anyone is special it would be the people who are 100% binary. They should get a flag.

[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

From what I understand non-binary people are the ones who make an active effort to get rid of every single gender norm.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I know a few women who identify as non-binary. They basically get short haircuts in styles women have worn for half a century. The kind that tend to require more styling effort than longer hair. That's it. I have more 'masculine' traits than all the NBs I know. Both through natural biological tendencies and through social/cultural preferences. It's nothing more than a fashion. This generation's mod/rocker/goth/emo. We just live in a time where most clothing styles are pretty much normal, so people who want to stand out as different, need to go beyond a style of dress.

[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's it. I have more 'masculine' traits than all the NBs I know

Technically they want to be neither masculine nor feminine so a short hair style would be very effective

[–]Wanderingthehalls 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No they don't. They either just want to stand out as something special without putting in the effort of being something special. Or they are going through some sort of upset and they latch onto the idea of being nb as a band-aid.

[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm being optimistic here. Of course some are using non-binary as a sort of emo. But from what I've seen there are people who genuinely just want to get rid of gender roles altogether.