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[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

To advocate for the doctors and parents to get sued and not the people actively grooming the detransitioner is to punish victims.

Who's grooming? Who's allowing them to be groomed?

There's basic things a parent has to do because there will always be bad actors going after your kids. Also, you have to pick a good school.

They don't see themselves as groomers, that's the issue. They think they're the good guys. This is why parents have some fault in not protecting their kids.

[–]LyingSpirit472 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's basic things a parent has to do because there will always be bad actors going after your kids. Also, you have to pick a good school.

Welcome to the Internet; clearly this is your first day on it. We're in a world where there's no possible way to 100% stop it anymore. You can't watch your kids 24/7, and the second you pass out trying your kids are going to be at risk. No matter how much you mete out and filter your kids' internet, no matter how much you make the kid mistrust anyone who's not directly in your family and look side-eyed at the other family members, SOMEONE is going to get through. And if you do all those things, your kid's going to lash out hard and more of them will get through.

They don't see themselves as groomers, that's the issue. They think they're the good guys.

I agree. WHICH IS WHY THEY HAVE TO BE THE ONES THAT ARE ALLOWED TO BE SUED OVER THIS STUFF. These groomers do truly believe they're the good guys, and no matter what happens to the former victim or the people who their scripting forced to give the former victim their way, they're not going to stop until you can punish them for it. The only way to stop them is to punish the groomers for this and make it so they are liable for these things. Inevitably, the groomers will cry and say they're really the good guys and the world is oppressing them because they're Dark Triad POSes and that's what they do, but if they can't afford the Internet because their money's all going to their victims, you take them out of the picture.

[–]TiberSeptim 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I don’t think so. They’re only allowing them to be groomed if you think that allowing your child any contact with the outside world is “allowing them to be groomed” it’s absolutely everywhere: TV, music, internet, movies, the schools, their friends, advertising. You can’t really escape it unless you’re completely out of the culture you’re subjected to the absolute firehose of propaganda in all the subjects that the regime values.

[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You can’t really escape it unless you’re completely out of the culture you’re subjected to the absolute firehose of propaganda in all the subjects that the regime values.

You train your child for that, you know that right?

[–]TiberSeptim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yes you can try to do that, but keep in mind that you’re sending a child to try to reason with adults here. You can allow your kids to stand in front of the firehouse and try to reason against adults, but it’s kinda a foregone conclusion that an 8 year old will simply believe what every part of the culture is telling him, especially when it’s authorities like his teacher.

[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Who said I'm sending a child to reason with adults? I just teach them about good habits, that's all. If they see a weird person in the bathroom they shouldn't reason with them (in this current political climate) they should get the fuck out!

[–]TiberSeptim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The people pushing the agenda are adults, so you’re sending a child to be told by adults what to think.

[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Adults are the professors? Your comment makes not much sense.