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[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I already see conservatives joking of the pride movement taking on the MAP's in the future. The LGBT+ people should seriously drop this "love is love" argument it's really hurting their cause.

I saw a "love is love" on a child's shirt the other day ffs 😂

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

While I'm sure some of the MAP stuff is just people trolling, I'm equally sure that some of it is people cautiously probing to see if the alphabet mafia will shield them from consequences like it's doing with the troons.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The trouble is this isn’t the first time the paedos have latched onto the LGB movement (and been welcomed with open arms), they did it in the 70s and early 80s. The breadth of French intelligentsia of the 60s and 70s defended the rights of paedos, British civil rights groups and left wing politicians got duped into supporting the paedo rights campaign and I’m sure something similar was happening in the US.

The fact is that the paedos have been lurking just beneath the surface of the gay rights campaign waiting for their moment to press their agenda, they know that there’s a large contingent of danger hairs that will help them if they couch it in the right language.

I’ve noticed that the trans lobby use ‘kid’ and ‘kiddo’ but never ‘child’ or ‘children’, even medical professionals…as a teacher I never use ‘kid’/‘kids’ as it is considered unprofessional and because it is too familiar… they use the subtleties of language to manipulate people.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The MAP stuff is a mix of people on the conservative side playing slippery slope straight to the bottom, being correct in their conclusion but usually failing to properly explain how people can slide all the way down and coming across as extremists in the public eye.

Then there are the LGBT activists who do point out that if we accept the "I'm born that way" argument for homosexuals it may also just as easily apply to pedophiles, which is correct, and that a hypothetical pedophile who doesn't ever actually pursue their desires hasn't done anything wrong and society might be better off by "accepting" that such things exist and not stigmatizing people who seek therapy for it, which is also true imho. But this then strays into the problem of gay acceptance in the first place, whereas we can say it's needlessly cruel to forcibly try to convert gay people to be "normal" does the same not ring true for pedophiles?

Of course then you also get the NAMBLA types coming out of the woodwork who not only unequivocally support pedophilia but want it entirely destigmatized so they can have easier access to new victims. They've always been there too. And they'll gladly try to guilt parents into thinking they are backwards whateverphobes and intolerant biggots for noticing some sketchy stuff going on.

Normal people will avoid the appearance of sketchy stuff as much as possible.

[–]Haylstorm 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Look how far out of the way male teachers often have to go to make sure they look cleaner than clean. Hell my bf has worked with nursery students and any men there aren't allowed to do certain tasks alone as a just in case precautionary measure to ensure both safeguarding and any accusations from crazy parents. Which makes sense but also makes it impractical to hire men for working with a young age range, which sucks for a fair few of the kids as they can miss out on a good male role model. I remember how excited the boys in my class were when we had a male teacher one year in primary school and how much it seemed to benefit them. They were way more engaged with the lessons for example.

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But this then strays into the problem of gay acceptance in the first place, whereas we can say it's needlessly cruel to forcibly try to convert gay people to be "normal" does the same not ring true for pedophiles?

On the plus side, this is where trans acceptance is the trap card [pun not intended] that shoots pedophiles in the foot: If we accept that gender identity and sexuality is different [you can be a trans straight person or a trans gay person], then we can assume for pedophilia age and sexuality is different [a male pedo can be a gay pedophile who likes men and boys, or a straight pedophile who likes women and girls]- and therefore, it's not conversion therapy anymore to say "go to therapy until you only like men/women."

[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I genuinely can't tell honestly.

We're talking about pedos and they haven't reached a conclusion on their community yet. Unlike LGBTQ+ which reached the conclusion that love is love and they want equal rights.

[–]chadwickofwv 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The pride community are the paedophiles.

[–]Haylstorm 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Love is love provided everyone involved has an ability and is of age to consent and there's not been any grooming isn't quite as catchy a slogan though.